The WELL: deadsongs.vue.129: Mason's Children

#22: Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Thu 2 Oct 03 08:29

Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:29:00 PDT

Yup!

Thanks for the email and food for thought and reflection. [Read entire topic]

#21: Randy Woodall (greyphenix779) Wed 1 Oct 03 20:04

Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:04:00 PDT

I now think I overreached looking for a Satyricon connection; there probably is none other than that one scene (and free-association.) In my defense I was also thinking about The Barbed Wire Whipping Party at the time I posted. ...Pretty strange "lyrics" there. [Read entire topic]

#20: Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Tue 30 Sep 03 07:22

Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:22:00 PDT

My uncle, then a Harvard Professor, took me to see Satyricon when I was 12 or 13. Possibly ruined my life ;-)

My Mom was outraged when she found out where we were. I dug the film (I've seen it a couple times since it came out on video), but don't get the connection to Satyricon. Am I being dense, or is just the cannibalism reference? [Read entire topic]

#19: Randy Woodall (greyphenix779) Mon 29 Sep 03 21:25

Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:25:00 PDT

I said Telemachus, what I meant was Tantalus and Pelops... Sorry about that, I'm rusty on my Greek mythology. [Read entire topic]

#18: Randy Woodall (greyphenix779) Mon 29 Sep 03 08:10

Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:10:00 PDT

As for the cannibalism references in Mason's, has anybody seen the film Fellini's Satyricon?

Although it's been years since I've seen it and this may be the same story of Telymachus that someone else has already cited. [Read entire topic]

#17: Randy Woodall (greyphenix779) Mon 29 Sep 03 08:07

Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:07:00 PDT

Sometimes I hear Hunter's words differently than the official version, but they still seem to make sense.

One of the examples from Mason's (admittedly, possibly just of mishearing or overanalyzing if that's possible - I'm not sure it is!) is the line "Take me to the Reaper man" heard, punningly, as also being take me to the Repo Man. That they didn't always seem to be singing the same thing at the same time, helps. [Read entire topic]

#16: Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Wed 24 Sep 03 13:24

Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:24:00 PDT

... and the rounder it gets, the faster it goes, and... [Read entire topic]

#15: Brian Penney (bpenney) Wed 24 Sep 03 11:02

Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:02:00 PDT

yeah. hunter's lyrics are handcuffs to me. the more it clicks the furthur i go and the tighter it gets. [Read entire topic]

#14: Brian Penney (bpenney) Wed 24 Sep 03 10:58

Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:58:00 PDT

<scribbled by bpenney Wed 24 Sep 03 11:02> [Read entire topic]

#13: Steven Solomon (ssol) Mon 15 Sep 03 11:10

Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:10:00 PDT

The historical, literary, lyrical, philosophical, musical lineage of certain concepts, lines of thought from the Greek Mystery Rites, Gnostics, Knights Templar, to the Masons and various and manifold off-shoots via Age o' Enlightenment are so vast and intertwined, it's hard to tell exactly where they sprang from prior to getting writ down or sung by the Dead, Hunter, Dylan, or even Ripley and the founding dads of the US o' A... well, perhaps that's part of why they called them Mystery Rites, way back when in "Pagan" Greece

The words Mystery and Literary had have many meanings over the past many centuries.They all revolved or had revolve around them lyric, wit, and music.

Oooops... I'm starting to channel Pythagorean devotees in a dance of twirlers. [Read entire topic]