The WELL: deadsongs.vue.17: Bertha

#22: Ed Hewitt (ehewitt) Fri 11 Jul 08 10:36

Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:36:00 PDT

i was just poking around the topic, but thought i would share this: when i pulled up the topic, i was listening to the Grateful Dead channel on jango.com - and the "related music" that came on second later was Don't Come Around Here No More by Tom Petty. a little of the old magic in the air... [Read entire topic]

#21: David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 19 May 08 12:08

Mon, 19 May 2008 12:08:00 PDT

Posted on behalf of Eric Hanson:

Heynow, my name is Eric Hanson. I check out your annotated lyrics list now and then, and I think i've figured something out. No ones mentioned it yet but I believe the song 'Bertha' is inspired by D.H. Lawrence's 'Lady Chatterley's Lover". One of the primary characters, Oliver Mellors, has an estranged wife by the name of Bertha Coutt's. One point has him sneaking up to and away from the house after what'd been a rainy night, to try and glimpse his love, Lady Chatterley. And toward's the end of the book, he 'really had to move', as his estranged wife showed up again after a while, naked, in his bed, having broken in while he was gone. He wont' have her back, yada yada... you can check the plot summary, or you're probably quite familiar with it... But I think that was more or less the inspiration behind the song. I'd love to see this bit of trivia on that site if you think it has merit. [Read entire topic]

#20: David Dodd (ddodd) Fri 23 Dec 05 22:08

Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:08:00 PST

Sometimes it seems like ALL this life was just a dream... [Read entire topic]

#19: searchlight casting (jstrahl) Fri 23 Dec 05 11:29

Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:29:00 PST

There was an interview with Jerry a *long* time ago in which he said the tune was about a fan (the machine sort:-)) in the rehearsal studio that used to act up in strange ways.But like so much in Hunter lyrics, maybe that's just a takeoff point for a broader statement. OR maybe it was just a joke on Jerry's part. Or maybe it was all a dream. [Read entire topic]

#18: Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Sun 18 Dec 05 18:06

Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:06:00 PST

Right! Who was in that? There was a later film with the same title, with Gene Hackman and, I think, Sharon Stone. Before that there was a WWII movie with that name. I do seem to recall a 60's flick about fast cars with the same title.

But the consonance with the meme, "the bond between the hopefull and the damned", is nice.

So was the picture of Lon chaney as the Phantom on that old SF poster for the Fillmore. [Read entire topic]

#17: Lightning in a Box (unkljohn) Sun 18 Dec 05 14:43

Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:43:00 PST

I think I saw an old racing movie long ago called "The Quick and the Dead". [Read entire topic]

#16: Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Sun 18 Dec 05 12:27

Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:27:00 PST

The hopeful and the damned. I like that, yes. I recall that old poster for "The Quick and The Dead". [Read entire topic]

#15: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Sat 17 Dec 05 08:48

Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:48:00 PST

I don't think the runway thing is such a good idea. I think arriving by boat may be the best. You could drop in on the pigmy rhinos on the way. Ah Java, island of dreams, place of nightmares.

"Family ties is half the price; can the nation stay alive? The other half was paid in blood back in 1965."

Then there is the Pink Floyd song, Green is the Colour:

"Green is the colour of her kind Quickness of the eye deceives the mind Many is the bond between the hopefull and the damned." [Read entire topic]

#14: Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Thu 15 Dec 05 20:01

Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:01:00 PST

I've forwarded your travel suggestion to my Chief of Staff. The folks in Java are now building a run-way long enough to accomodate my personal jet.

Re-reading <11>, I'm also stumbling across Queen Moo of Central America, Mother Mary, Isis and Osiris, and their several analogs. This guy in green seems to have gotten all around the world.

Maybe this gets at the thing that Hunter, blessed lunatic he is, is really good at. "Take it as far as you wanna go, 'till you can't see the desert for the burnin' snow". [Read entire topic]

#13: Robin Russell (rrussell8) Thu 15 Dec 05 08:25

Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:25:00 PST

Guests are able to have a look at Room 308, in fact I don't think it was locked. If you are ever in Java, the Samudra Beach Hotel is a must. And the fish market at Pelabuhanratu is wonderful. The road from Bogor on is a bit suspect, takes a while, but the destination is well worth the journey. [Read entire topic]