David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 8 Sep 03 09:36
So Many Roads w: Hunter m: Garcia AGDL: http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/soma.html LASF: http://www.whitegum.com/songfile/SOMANYRO.HTM
Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 8 Sep 03 20:21
So Many Roads Lyrics: Robert Hunter Music: Jerry Garcia Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission. Thought I heard a blackird singing Up on Bluebird Hill Call me a whinin' boy if you will Born where the sound don't shine And I don't deny my name Got no place to go, ain't that a shame? Thought I heard that KC whistle Moaning sweet and low Thought I heard that KC when she blow Down where the sun don't shine Underneath the kokomomo Whinin' boy got no place to go So many roads I tell you So many roads I know So many roads, so many roads Mountain high, river wide So many roads to ride So many roads, so many roads Thought I heard a jug band playin' "If you don't... who else will?" From over on the far side of the hill All I know the sun don't shine And the rain refused to fall And you don't seem to hear me when I call Wind inside and the wind outside Tangled in the window blind Tell me why you treat me so unkind Down where the sun don't shine Lonely and I call your name No place left to go, ain't that a shame? So many roads I tell you New York to San Francisco So many roads I know All I want is one to take me home From the high road to the low So many roads I know So many roads so many roads From the land of the midnight sun Where the ice blue roses grow Along those roads of gold and silver snow Howlin' wide or moaning low So many roads I know So many roads to ease my soul
Adam Perry (adamice9) Wed 17 Sep 03 16:41
"Where the ice blue roses grow." Damn. his was without a doubt one of their best songs. The imagery, the joy and pain, the sense of history and sweet wisdom, and the sound of Garcia moaning passionately at the end. It has the ability to make me smile and cry - perhaps simultaneously. I just put the boxed set version on a mix tape of otherwise non-GD music for an old friend I miss and I'm waiting to see what she thinks of it... One wonders if this (or "Lazy River Road" or "Corrina") could have been a radio hit if their asses had got around to making another album. And I'm still wondering when someone will get around to making a decent quality compilation of the songs that most likely would have filled said album...
Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 18 Sep 03 06:54
This song has one of my very favorite Hunter images: Wind inside and the wind outside tangled in the window blind Perfect!
Marked from the Day I was Born (ssol) Thu 18 Sep 03 09:32
"Look out of any window", "Look into any eyes" fr; "Box of Rain". At the level of self-reference and reference to traditional and earlier pop lyrics that Hunter achieves and builds upon,the possible dimensions are almost innumerable and wide-open to speculation. they can mean or point to something different almost any time you consider them. Or, you can just sit back and listen to Jerry wail away at that closing "So many roads I know, So many roads to ease my soul" over and over and over in the last few concerts, and soak in whatever notions fill your own heart.
long-distance tripper (xian) Thu 18 Sep 03 10:14
The full-circle references to Winin' Boy, KC Moan, a jug band... they move me. Is it really "born where the sound don't shine"? Another lyric that works as Hunter-to-Jerry message too.
Ray (riescher) Fri 19 Sep 03 10:29
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Adam Perry (adamice9) Fri 19 Sep 03 15:59
I never saw the potential for sexual metaphor in this song until now, reading it on a page. I know its not really there, but its almost as funny as "see how it feels in the end": forest of fellatio: she blow Down where the sun don't shine and sexual frustration: Tell me why you treat me so unkind Down where the sun don't shine
from a different song (xian) Sat 20 Sep 03 09:14
"rock 'n' roll, baby, in the ol' caboose"
David Gans (tnf) Sat 20 Sep 03 09:19
WAILIN' in the old caboose, no?
mumbletonian (xian) Sat 20 Sep 03 09:53
ah, that's not as good, then.
Brian Penney (bpenney) Wed 11 Feb 04 06:56
hearing jerry sing "the wind inside, the wind outside tangled in the window blinds" is really close to my favorite: "gone are the days we stopped to decide where we should go we just ride." i love this song. i love the pain and hope in "thought i heard.."
from TIM WHITE (tnf) Thu 19 Feb 04 08:57
Tim White writes: Hi there I've just caight up with the latest postings, especially about SMR, and I've been musing about the writing relationship between Hunter and Garcia. (Far more interesting than working right now!) There are words Hunter wrote for Jerry to sing in a character - no one suggests Jerry *is* August West or the "me" character in Wharf Rat. Then there are songs where perhaps Hunter intended the words as a message to Jerry: "Ain't nobody messin' with you but you Your friends are getting most concerned Loose with the truth, maybe its your fire Baby I hope you don't get burned" SMR though is different, like Hunter is writing words for Jerry to sing to express directly how he, Jerry, is feeling. So today looking at the words for SMR, I got to thinking, how must Hunter have felt when he heard the final performances of that song? what must it be like to write the words that allow your best friend of 30-odd years to express his pain as nakedly as Jerry does on the 7/9/95 performance? I wasn't there, but just listening to it on CD has made *me* cry at times. But I also find hope there too, what is it that will help Jerry along the road home? The love coming back from the 'heads. If thousands of people could hug one man, that's what it would sound like. Tim "Peace is not simply the absence of conflict, but the existence of justice for all people." Martin Luther King Jr.
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Tue 24 Feb 04 11:51
On the track of allusions to other (presumably by convention, earlier) songs, in SMR we have: "Howlin' wide or moaning low" while in Loser, there is: "Don't you push me baby, 'cause I'm moaning low" Of course, like an old bluesman, we can expect Hunter to reuse the money phases without necessarily intending to invoke the earlier song. But for the listener, the invocation may be effective irrespective of the intentions of the shaman. Happy Trails Happy Trails
pedantico the nerdboy (xian) Mon 3 May 04 09:58
alludes to K.C. Moan as well, no? I think the line in Liberty about "whole damn world looking back at me" also captured Hunter's sense of what it was like to be in Jerry's shoes, tempered with his own "whoosh" experience of semifame from the early '70s.
Brian Penney (bpenney) Sun 16 May 04 22:43
a "whinin boy" is evidently a special type of locomotive used to pull extremely heavy loads. i sent hunter an email many moons ago asking about that term and i believe that was his response. i could have picked it up somewhere else, though.
from FRED CARRET (tnf) Fri 20 Oct 06 05:44
Fred Carret writes: I was just listening to "So Many Roads" for the first time, from 9/18/94. Wow. So I checked out the Annotated Lyrics, and I couldn't believe nobody mentioned this: "And you don't seem to hear me when I call" ... Chorus of "Big Boss Man", anyone?
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Fri 20 Oct 06 09:05
In the Row Jimmy thread I recently posted this about "windin boy" - it comes from From Howard Reich and William Gaines' biography of Jelly Roll Morton, Jelly's Blues (Da Capo, 2003): Jelly Roll Morton was known as the "windin' boy" for a particular pelvic motion at which he was proficient.
Gary Burnett (jera) Tue 24 Oct 06 17:43
I think, then, that there are at least 3 different variants: whinin' boy winin' boy windin' boy Very different referents for each!
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Thu 26 Oct 06 18:47
Right. And in Elijah Wald's "Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues", he says the term "rider" was used for a guitar. So that one has a few possible meanings as well.
Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 5 Sep 11 06:14
Just noticed an interesting contrast between: "All I know, the sun don't shine, and the rain refuse to fall" and "There the morning rain don't fall, and the sun always shines" from "Early Morning Rain."
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