David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 8 Sep 03 09:38
Sugar Magnolia (incl. Sunshine Daydream) w: Hunter, Weir m: Weir AGDL: http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/smag.html LASF: http://www.whitegum.com/songfile/SUGAR1MG.HTM
Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 8 Sep 03 20:14
Sugar Magnolia Lyrics: Robert Hunter/Bob Weir Music: Bob Weir Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission. Sugar Magnolia, blossoms blooming Heads all empty and I don't care Saw my baby down by the river Knew she'd have to come up soon for air Sweet blossom, come on under the willow We can have high times if you'll abide We can discover the wonders of nature Wading in the rushes down by the riverside She's got everything delightful She's got everything I need Takes the wheel when I'm seeing double Pays my ticket when I speed She comes skimming through rays of violet She can wade in a drop of dew She don't come and I don't follow Waits backstage while I sing to you She can dance a Cajun rhythm Jump like a Willys in four wheel drive She's a summer love in the spring, fall and winter She can make happy any man alive Sugar Magnolia Ringing that bluebell Caught up in sunlight Come on out singing and I'll walk you in the sunshine Come on honey, come along with me She's got everything delightful She's got everything I need A breeze in the pines and the sun and bright moonlight Lazing in the sunlight, yes indeed Sometimes when the cuckoo's crying When the moon is half way down Sometimes when the night is dying I take me out and I wander around I wander round Sunshine daydream Walking in the tall trees Going where the wind goes Blooming like a red rose Breathing more freely Ride out singing, I'll walk you in the morning sunshine Sunshine daydream Sunshine daydream Walking in the sunshine [etc]
Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 4 Apr 05 13:27
Oops. It should be "Rolling in the rushes ..." not "Wading in the rushes." Thanks to Dan Franzen for spotting this.
David Gans (tnf) Sat 9 Feb 08 23:14
"Take a great notion Rollin' like the ocean" - Sunshine Daydream 3/26/72
David Dodd (ddodd) Wed 13 Feb 08 14:57
No! Really? that's wonderful!
David Dodd (ddodd) Thu 12 Jun 08 15:14
Posted on behalf of Brandon Lorenc: I just got off the phone with a Willys collector and I asked him about the entry for Sugar Mags "When the Willy's jeep first came out, there was some type of maneuver, or trick, that an experienced driver could do to make the vehicle actually "leap", jump, or catch air, somehow." Being a car guy this has always bothered me, I just couldn't fathom how this would be possible and believe me I am not unimaginative :) Anywho, he said he knows as much about these Willys as probably anyone in the country (and I believe him) and he has never heard of such a "maneuver". He thought it was likely because the original press release materials from the US army for the Willys showed pics and video of 2 guys jumping over stuff, basically a typical off road thing that looks super cool. Any way, I guess I will have to look at that Smithsonian article when I have a chance b/c it sounds like urban legend stuff to me :) Thanks for being so cool. Brandon Lorenc
Wendy Darling (wendydarling) Sat 17 Jan 09 11:17
I would like to suggest that "Sweet Magnolia' is in fact, not a woman. In the language of flowers, magnolia is, love of nature. I think, in the context of this song, that 'sweet love of nature' makes perfect sense. To further this argument: water willow = freedom rush = docility violet (is a bit ambiguous, but a purple violet) = you occupy my thoughts bluebell = constancy pine tree = courage tree (of life) = age red rose = 'I love you' http://home.comcast.net/~bryant.katherine/flowers.html So, it's just a thought and I'd love to know what you think.
Scott MacFarlane (s-macfarlane) Sat 17 Jan 09 12:28
she takes the wheel when I'm seeing double rolling in the rushes she's my summer love Sugar Magnolia's definitely a poignant overture to outdoor/natural love, and perhaps it was written to convey what you suggest, but it's hard to rule out Sugar Magnolia as a woman. However, I do like your ambitious interpretations of how Hunter might have been "gardening" with his flowers!!
Wendy Darling (wendydarling) Sat 17 Jan 09 12:43
Not nit picking but, its just, "takes the wheel when I'm seeing double pays my ticket when I speed" and yeah I expected those two lines to be a problem, but I always had a problem with this describing a girl (sucker). So I was thinking, this could be 'putting you trust in the fates' 'trusting it will all work out'. And it's, "We can discover the wonders of nature rolling in the rushes..." And, the 'she's that are really there could be she, mother nature (nature is always a she). AND, thank you, my ambition will persist.
Wendy Darling (wendydarling) Sat 17 Jan 09 15:17
A few more point, verging on obsession. I LOVE this song, who doesn't. But I've always had a problem with this describing a woman, much less a highly desirable woman: empty headed, paying for your mistakes, not caring when you go out 'wandering round', cause we all know what 'wandering round' means in that context. But if Sugar Magnolia is not really a woman... And more on the empty headed, if describing nature, this could be, that there's no thought behind nature, no designer, "but I don't care." "She don't come, and I don't follow" If she's a woman, what is that? Is she some ditzy devoted fan (girlfriend), waiting back stage? Or, is nature always there waiting, even when your out of 'it', on stage, plugged in, basking in unnatural light, enveloped by a concrete dome? I mean granted Weir is Weir, but Hunter... maybe, just maybe, that's the kind of joke Hunter would pull on Weir? Isn't this the song that ended their writing relationship?
Christian Crumlish (xian) Sun 18 Jan 09 05:33
I always took it be the narrator's head that was all empty, as on a beautiful summer day when you aren't thinking but just being. There's definitely a woman ("Saw my baby down by the river") but that doesn't mean her *name* is Sugar Mag.
David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 19 Jan 09 13:53
I always come back to the "just a daydream" line--it's all fantasy, not a real woman.
Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Thu 22 Jan 09 09:28
Ain't Hunter's lyrics great? So much fun and so many different ways to hear the same few words. Fwiw, for me Sugar Mag is a young lady, a bundle of trouble and even more fun. She made took me from being a boy to being a young man and sent me on my way. I can't tell you her given name. That's a secret that cannot be told.
Colleen Nelson (ms-colita) Sun 4 Oct 09 21:48
Ya gots ta eat acid for this one. Cosmic is as cosmic you duz. *Snerk* I feel a flashback comin' on!
Tom White (tomwhite56) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:00
I never thought of "Heads all empty and I don't care" first of all as I wrote it, both heads, and then that they're relaxed and uncaring in the relaxed warmth of a summer day, not having to engage with thwe world, just being there then, and not feeling any regret about it. My take on "She don't come and I don't follow" is that no one is actually leading in the couple, that they go forward together, in a state of equality. I never got the idea that the lyrics were non-complimentary.
David Gans (tnf) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:12
That's a nice take on it. "She don't come [when I call]", as it were.
Christian Crumlish (xian) Tue 17 Aug 10 21:51
is it not "Head's all empty"?
coal will turn to gray (comet) Wed 18 Aug 10 19:32
That's how A Box of Rain puts it. Was that on purpose?
Tom White (tomwhite56) Thu 19 Aug 10 08:11
No doubt RObert Hunter knows more than I do. But everything is somewhat subject to interpretation, I'd say. Wouldn't be surprised if his attitude was, If that's what you think, go with it.
Gary Burnett (jera) Thu 19 Aug 10 08:21
As he said himself in the intro to Box Of Rain. I don't have the book at hand right now, but he's pretty clear that the printed lyrics are *his* versions, and that others are also possible.
Tom White (tomwhite56) Thu 19 Aug 10 08:46
I love Hunter's lyrics. There are songs of his that, once I started playing them, I cannot imagine my life without them.
David Dodd (ddodd) Fri 20 Aug 10 10:29
I like the plural "heads". It does make one think of even more possible lines of interpretation, along with the "she don't come..." ambiguity. Not to get too explicit.
Strangest I Could Find (miltloomis) Thu 3 Mar 11 18:59
Good Lord No! We wouldn't want to get too explicit ... ;^)
Tim Lynch (masonskids) Thu 29 Nov 12 10:22
Sugar Magnolia was Frankie Weir
Alex Allan (alexallan) Wed 30 Apr 14 08:25
I was just re-watching The BBC TV documentary "Classic Albums: Anthem To Beauty" and noticed that it includes a shot of what I assume are Robert Hunter's handwritten lyrics to Sugar Magnolia. These are not in Hunter's online list of handwritten lyrics, and are very different to the final version - which is ironic given that they are shown during a segment when Bob Weir is talking about how Hunter was writing the end of the lyrics in the studio during the recording of the song, and Bob took them and sang them straight off the paper. I have to say that I love the final version we all know, which is a great improvement over what I assume is an early draft: Fallen Carolina hooker, Ave Marie No I can't be taking you here with me Don't want you there for my mama to see But here's 10 to see you through Saturday (Soon you wait down under the magnolia tree) Sugar magnolia, the blossom is bare Haven't got a thought about it, that's all I care Chugging locomotive manicure my line Wrote a note to tell you everything is fine [the next two lines are crossed out - the question mark is Hunter's] Only one thing that troubles my mind ? don't grow in the wintertime Sugar magnolia Remember I told you You can't go casting notions With no string on the line Sugar magnolia Recall what I said You can't indulge your nation If you ain't got no bread Sugar magnolia, you better beware One of these days you look I'm gonna be there Kindly remember I meant what I said Catch you foolin' round I'm gonna lay you down dead
David Gans (tnf) Wed 30 Apr 14 09:36
Wow, that's a whole nother song!!
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