Robin Russell (rrussell8) Wed 14 Dec 05 08:03
I never doubted there was a real Sweet Jane who lost her sparkle. I hope she is still around, there are too many gone too early. "Drugs was our Vietnam".
David Gans (tnf) Fri 12 Oct 12 11:25
Anybody notice that for the first several weeks of this song's existence, Bobby sang "Garlands of neon"? There were several other awkward things that were worked out in the early days. The first few times, he sang "Detroit and Chicago" instead of vice versa. Much less clumsy to sing "Chicago, New York..."
Alex Allan (alexallan) Fri 12 Oct 12 12:07
Interesting - and would be interesting to know what Hunter originally wrote, given Bobby's tendency to want to amend Hunter's lyrics. If "Garlands of neon" was the original lyric, Hunter nonetheless seems to have adopted "Arrows" as the 'official' version.
David Gans (tnf) Fri 12 Oct 12 13:40
So I saw. I haven't had much luck getting info out of Hunter over the last few years, so I won't annoy him by asking.
David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 15 Oct 12 10:27
No, not worth it. "Garlands" is fun, though!
David Gans (tnf) Mon 15 Oct 12 10:46
Yeah. A VERY hard word to sing in that spot, and "arrows" works perfectly.
*%* (jewel) Mon 15 Oct 12 11:15
I heard arrows as eros for way longer than I'd care to admit.
David Gans (tnf) Mon 7 Oct 13 07:44
Yesterday on SiriusXM's "Tales from the Golden Road," we talked about the line "Dallas got a soft machine," wondering what it might refer to. Today I got this email: > I'll be God damned. Until this weekend I thought Dallas had a soft blue > sheen. Just goes to show.
David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 7 Oct 13 09:35
Ha! Maybe Dallas DOES have a soft blue sheen... Any other good speculations?
Gary Burnett (jera) Mon 7 Oct 13 10:26
I've always assumed that it was a reference to the Burroughs novel, but what it means I don't have the slightest.
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Mon 7 Oct 13 14:14
I recall reference to a club in Dallas by that name back in the day.
Tim Lynch (masonskids) Fri 11 Oct 13 08:42
So was the Doo Dah man the guy in the R. Crumb comic?
Christian Crumlish (xian) Fri 11 Oct 13 22:39
there is another theory that it refers to the political machine in that city being less corrupt (bribe-demanding) and harsh to a passing-through band of druggies or trucker-with-freight
David Dodd (ddodd) Fri 27 Jun 14 10:08
From an email I received recently: Hi David...my wife was watching this movie on TCM the other day, entitled "For Me and My Gal"....with Judy Garland and Gene Kelly....some female in the movie at some point exclaims (probably Judy) "Chicago, New York, Detroit....they're all the same..." Mary, my wife, was thinking that maybe Hunter might have this tidbit deeply embedded somewhere in his brain, when a very similar lyrical reference obviously shows up in Truckin...what do you think? thanks Marc and Mary Jacoby
David Gans (tnf) Fri 27 Jun 14 10:44
*%* (jewel) Fri 27 Jun 14 13:37
Gary Burnett (jera) Fri 27 Jun 14 13:38
Plagiarism!!! (I'm just kidding)
Alex Allan (alexallan) Sat 28 Jun 14 00:21
According to IMDb the quote is: "Chicago, Boston, Detroit, they're all the same, except New York ... that's a city!"
David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 30 Jun 14 08:50
Got the ways and means...
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