David Dodd (ddodd) Mon 8 Sep 03 09:51
The Wheel w: Hunter m: Garcia AGDL: http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/wheel.html LASF: http://www.whitegum.com/songfile/WHEEL.HTM
Alex Allan (alexallan) Mon 8 Sep 03 18:40
The Wheel Lyrics: Robert Hunter Music: Jerry Garcia Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission. Chorus 1: The wheel is turning and you can't slow down You can't let go and you can't hold on You can't go back and you can't stand still If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will Chorus 2: Won't you try just a little bit harder Couldn't you try just a little bit more Won't you try just a little bit harder Couldn't you try just a little bit more Round, round, Robin run around Gotta get back where you belong Little bit harder, just a little bit more Little bit further than you gone before [chorus 1] Small wheel turning by the fire and rod Big wheel turning by the grace of God Every time that wheel turn round Bound to cover just a little more ground [chorus 1] [chorus 2]
Alex Allan (alexallan) Wed 19 May 04 03:14
I did Bill Kreutzmann an injustice: he's credited as co-writing the music.
David Gans (tnf) Wed 19 May 04 07:39
Indeed. The new Garcia boxed set iincludes ample evidence that "The Wheel" was created in the studio.
Marked from the Day That I was Born (ssol) Wed 19 May 04 07:57
Garcia's guitar on that number is possibly my favorite sound in music. Fwiw.
David Dodd (ddodd) Wed 19 May 04 08:33
Me too. My son, Alex (4 years old) loves The Wheel--live and studio versions, but of the studio version, he asked early on what that sound was?, referring to the pedal steel. He thought it was some kind of horn. A great piece of playing.
Christian Crumlish (xian) Thu 20 May 04 19:06
those sessions are revelatory! really amazing. when the chords for Wheel, that introductory pattern, start up, it gives me chills. I'm working on some thoughts about that collection, and putting together a highlights mix for my iPod called "All Gooder Things" (and one CD of the tippy-top stuff for my girlfriend called "All Goodest Things").
from JEFF FERMON (tnf) Sat 29 May 04 22:09
Jeff Fermon writes: I find especially amazing the Wheel's pedal steel and billy's opening drums with the molecular animations in the GD Movie. That sequence of sight and sound is so good. The whole audio/visual collage with snippets of songs (BIODTL, Caution, and the solo Garcia album clips) the segue into US Blues (with Lady Liberty smashing down the prison walls where the heart and soul of this country was captive) to the live set where the band is just effervescing with positive energy. I was too young to experience such a phenom, but the vibrations are still rippling through the world. I also get chills!
from PAUL KENISTON (tnf) Sat 9 Apr 05 21:46
Paul Keniston writes: This song never fails to set me soaring. The two choruses produce a diametically opposed point of view that sets a tension that keeps it all balanced. first, There's that helpless feeling of despair that makes you wonder what's the point of even trying. " you can't ...you can't...you can't...if the thunder don't get you then the lightening will" then the reponse of " Won't you try just a little bit harder " It just strikes me as I write that this song is all about the little engine that Could!
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Tue 8 Apr 08 06:00
I think of the small wheel turning within the big wheel, the quest to understand the universe, and all the while the universe is changing. But who is Robin?
Scott MacFarlane (s-macfarlane) Tue 8 Apr 08 07:29
Scott MacFarlane (s-macfarlane) Tue 8 Apr 08 07:38
David Dodd (ddodd) Thu 10 Apr 08 15:46
Aren't YOU Robin?
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Sun 13 Apr 08 16:34
I'm the Robin in "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry".
David Dodd (ddodd) Thu 18 Feb 10 14:20
Posted on behalf of Bruce Whyte: "Small wheel turn by the fire and rod" It would appear that the most straightfoward meaning to this line is another railroad reference to a steam locomotive where the wheels are turned firstly by the energy in the fire and finally by the connecting rod which actually drives the diving wheels. This would also tie in to the larger theme that the small wheels are the work of man and the big wheels are the work of god. Do you think I am on the right track... thank you Bruce Whyte
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Fri 19 Feb 10 08:02
Yes. Train hundred and two is on the wrong track.
*%* (jewel) Mon 22 Feb 10 15:41
Love that. Thanks!
Tom White (tomwhite56) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:04
The lyric is "Small wheel turning by the firing rod", in other words, the mechanical world, man's little works, being run by the creation of man, the engine, whereas the big stuff is being turned by the hand (grace) of God.
David Gans (tnf) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:13
No, it's "small wheel turn by the fire and rod," as in an internal-combustion engine.
Tom White (tomwhite56) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:17
"Robin" is a reference to "round robin", the idea of beginning in one place, going around in a circle -- as in a round robin discussion -- and coming back to the beginning. Continuance of the idea that life is a cosmic circle, that the end of the journey is its beginning, perhaps even that no matter what the journey you are still the same. Try looking at it this way: Round, round, robin run around Round round robin run around Round...etc. Also the robin reference may be tied to the circle of life, the robin (bird's) existence in the round of the seasons, raising the robin family, sending the kids off, surviving the winter, back into spring... These things are only partially thought out in advance, I'm sure. The ideas pour out through the pen, when the writer is in the creative flow...which is in itself riding a wheel...you write a song, you finish the song, you write another (calling to mind another band's "Run, rabbit run..."
Tom White (tomwhite56) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:18
Actually, Mr. Gans, same difference. You said more succinctly what I was trying to say.
Tom White (tomwhite56) Tue 17 Aug 10 09:24
And BTW Mr. Gans, it's nice to meet you!
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Thu 2 Sep 10 07:33
Robin could also be a specific person ...
David Dodd (ddodd) Thu 2 Sep 10 12:59
Hood? Sylvester? Roberts?
Robin Russell (rrussell8) Fri 3 Sep 10 05:41
Might even be Robin, Duke of Bedford.
David Gans (tnf) Fri 3 Sep 10 09:29
Hunter being something of an Anglophile, I'd say we can't rule that out. And yet...
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