The WELL: deadsongs.vue.228: Notes and queries

#10: David Dodd (ddodd) Fri 23 Sep 05 09:43

Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:43:00 PDT

It sounds like "Box of Rain," with words by Robert Hunter (not Hart) and music by Lesh. It's on American Beauty, and is, indeed, a lovely song that mentions wind and water... [Read entire topic]

#9: from BARBRA (tnf) Fri 23 Sep 05 07:06

Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:06:00 PDT

Hello!

I have enjoyed browsing your site.*

I heard the tail end of a lovely song on a NPR station in Gainesville Florida while driving home one night. The dj said that the song was "poetry by Lesh and Hart" and was titled "Water of Tears and Rain" from 1971, and then mentioned the American Beauty album. I wrote it down as he spoke. Well, I have checked the album, as well as google, and cannot find anything of this title for this year. Can you help me? The song really touched me and resonated in my mind and I would like to find it.

Thank you for your assistance!

Barbra [Read entire topic]

#8: John P. McAlpin (john-p-mcalpin) Fri 1 Jul 05 12:11

Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:11:00 PDT

That's it. I was so tired when I tried to respond. I loved those stories of people like Garcia carrying around the four albums from that box set. And I recall Dylan tales where he supposedly nicked the set from other folkies. [Read entire topic]

#7: David Gans (tnf) Thu 30 Jun 05 20:43

Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:43:00 PDT

The Lomax recordings and the Harry Smith Anthology. [Read entire topic]

#6: John P. McAlpin (john-p-mcalpin) Thu 30 Jun 05 19:50

Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:50:00 PDT

Aren't much of these folk songs collected on the Alan Lomx (sp?) field recordings?

I recall some references that said Garcia and Hunter knew those discs. They were the rage during that folk exlposion and likely the source. [Read entire topic]

#5: bound to cover (mossman) Tue 28 Jun 05 09:57

Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:57:00 PDT

I was supremely intrigued by the same aspects, Todd, and from the same era. Our favorite tunes were usually Hunter penned.

Images evoked are archetypal, yet somehow deeply rooted in American past, I always thought they should be considered the quintessential American band. (aside, did you know that the Steal your Face logo, in red white and blue, the lightning bolt has 13 points. Wave that flag!)

Your Appalachian folktale theory is plausable. If it's the case, where did THEY come from?

Sadly, many of these images are rapidly fading; besides books, the GD music was the only way they were staying alive for me. [Read entire topic]

#4: from TODD HINES (tnf) Wed 9 Feb 05 22:25

Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:25:00 PST

Todd Hines writes:

Just a bolt from the blue to see if anyone else noticed or has thoughts about the subtle connections in alot of Hunter's lyrics, mostly from the 70's. I was a teen-age tourhead (sounds like a great monster movie,eh?) from about '79 to '87, and kind of slipped away when I saw "Deadheads for Bush" (Papa Doc that is) bumperstickers and a lot of frat types on summer tour in '87. Anyway, saw many shows, had much fun, but one way we would while away the hours between towns was to try to decipher what exactly Hunter was writing about, aside from rich,literate,emotional slices of consciousness (and sub-consciousness and gruop mind and...oh,you know what I mean.) Our little band of freaks, many of whom stayed in college WAAY too long, began to notice some references that kept cropping up-- Fennario, the Soldier and the Sailor, Billy DeLyon, the Lion's (Lyon's?) Den,and others that I'm hard pressed to remember now, as its been ten or fifteen years since we originally tried to trace all this down. One of my buddies at the time mentioned he had heard there was a cycle of very old Appalachian folktales that Hunter might be drawing on for inspiration...you know, to light the song with sense and color. We were all deeply into the lyrics, not that the music was EVER weak, but we actually tried to start charting this path to see if the was a sort of larger, unifiying song-cycle, since Hunter has written larger pieces before. Life intruded, and we never did get thoroughly figured up, if there was anything there to connect anyway (the harder you look the less you see!) Having moved to SF last year, finally, I've found myself thinkin' more about my deadhead years, and you know it never leaves you. So I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has thoughts or knowledge on this, and I suppose the thing to do would be to ask the man who wrote the words, but I got no idea how to contact him or if he'd care to talk about his influences. If you know, I am--

Todd Hines diablotico13@yahoo.com [Read entire topic]

#3: David Gans (tnf) Mon 15 Mar 04 22:12

Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:12:00 PST

Thanks, Tim! [Read entire topic]

#2: Tim Lynch (masonskids) Mon 15 Mar 04 20:47

Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:47:00 PST

The song was Sisters & Brothers, from the live JGB album. I do not believe the words Jerry said to her in her dream were lyrics from a song. [Read entire topic]

#1: David Gans (tnf) Mon 15 Mar 04 18:11

Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:11:00 PST

On the Roseanne Show several years ago when she gave birth to the youngest child, Jerry Garcia was featured. Roseanne was in short of a dream-like state and Jerry Garcia came to her and said, "What we need is magic and bliss, myth and celebration. ...... We need spiritual connection to each other." (May not have words exactly.) Then there was music as dancers danced around Roseanne in the delivery room.

Questions: What was the music? Was it a Grateful Dead song? If so, what was the name of the song. Were the words Jerry Garcia spoke to Roseanne part of the lyrics of a Grateful Dead song? If so, what is the name of the song.

Thanks for any help or insight. _ * (\0/) /_\ Blessings ALL-Ways,

Teresa

Teresa LaVoy www.LabyrinthsinNC.com [Read entire topic]