Len Schiff (theboojum) Mon 18 Jun 01 07:30
So? Was anyone (beside me) at the show last night?
Jouni Koponen (jonl) Mon 18 Jun 01 07:45
Email from Jouni Koponen: Whoa! You turn your back for a few moments and everything gets upside down! New topics, websites, books, babies... (looks nervously around, sees familiar faces and relaxes a bit) Dan Guy - GREAT NEWS! Congrats to you & Lori & little baby Alexander! Ours is still rearraging my wifes internal organs ('Hmm. I think the liver would look much nicer THERE... and if I could just remove this rib...') Still couple of weeks (maybe less, maybe more) to go. Michelle - Thanks. The b-day was actually 15 of june, so you were right on time ;-) I'm 29 now... does that mean I should be like... dunno... adult? Creepy. Life tends to do that, doesn't it (sneak up on you I mean). Haven't had time to hang around AFNG... damn! How are things around there? Many Newbie-thingies? Neil - The book is officially out now, isn't it? So officially congratulations for the new book. It has been great hanging around here with you and all these other cool people. Hope we can enjoy your comments here also in the future... :-) About NeilGaiman.com - Cool stuff. One of the video clips wasn't available though... Jouni (waiting for the baby, waiting for the book, waiting for the summer vacation, waiting for the sun to come out...)
JaNell (janell) Mon 18 Jun 01 08:00
Squeaks- I'll get you that address. Jameson is now working on a series of paintings- portraits of 11th St. Irregulars as Gaiman characters... but who is the comic store owner? You've got to tell me. If it's who I think it is, I'll laugh my ass off! Neil- I've been working in the studio, so if I come to Lexington, I'll have something for you... Walker, are you still alive out there?
Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Mon 18 Jun 01 08:03
Kristin-- I'm very proud to be the techno nut that I am, and I shudder to think of the money I've spent over the years on the newest, coolest new gadgets. But I don't think I'll ever really be enticed to reading ebooks. I understand the advantages to the medium and anything that makes it easier for good literature to be made available gets major props from me, but like you said, I can't imagine myself hanging out in my bed on a rainy day with my Ebook display screen. -Shawn- done with _House of Leaves_ and finally starting my search for American Gods
Joseph Walerko (cerebuspo) Mon 18 Jun 01 08:45
Kristin - From the brain of a computer engineer, I'd have to say that eBooks are one of those works-in-progress. The idea of transferring paper effectively into little magnetic dots, light beams, quantum points, etc, has been around for some time. Many articles on the web usually refer to Douglas Adams being one of the first eBook theorists, and that was around 1979 (Personlly I'd pay good money for a handheld gadget that looked just like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, complete with "Don't Panic", and contained all of Douglas Adams' works). I remember a few years back articles in "Wired" that introduced the Rocketbook, and many similar clones that were contoured to be held in your hand just like a paperback with the cover folded back (so it's more round on one end). Unfortunately, the text was always an eyesore in the way that ink on pages was not. However, higher resolutions and memory capacities have allowed text to look better on a screen (which itself is lit to a point that your eyes arent bothered much). Microsoft's Reader does a pretty decent job; I have been reading some Sherlock Holmes on my iPAQ and I can read for a while before rubbing my eyes. Furthermore, there's a free plugin you can add to MS Word that lets you convert documents into eBooks and then you can read them on your portable device. But you're right; the technology is still VERY expensive, and there's nothing like the scent and feel of an old book. Paper books will not disappear for decades, if they are replaced at all. But I must give credit to the fact that the price will inevitably drop, and I already appreciate the enormous volumes of classic literature and reference tomes that are available for free on the Internet. In short, my advice is to wait it out until something really tailored to reading eBooks alone comes out at an affordable price. It'll happen eventually, and I'm sure in the meantime people are working on formats to replace the PDFs and LITs that are out there now. It's just going to take more time to evolve because the big bucks are in video and audio, not paper. -Joe (the techno-rambler)
Jade Walker (maidenfate) Mon 18 Jun 01 09:19
Martha - You would have loved last night's show. Why the room was positively buzzing with "Martha Soukup" and her many adventures. :-) Neil - Thanks for a great reading. I attended the late night one at The Bottom Line (didn't want to miss the most 'pornographic' part of "American Gods" read aloud) and thoroughly enjoyed it. Every time I hear "Babycakes," it makes me reevaluate my cheeseburger cravings. Looking forward to the signing on Tuesday. All - I know you're huge fans of Neil's work -- why else would you be traipsing through this well? But I strongly urge you to do two very important things this summer. 1) Buy American Gods. It's brilliant. In fact buy several copies and give them to all your friends. 2) Attend a Neil Gaiman reading. I left last night's event positively brimming with inspiration. Sure made going into work at The Times (where I have to stick to nonfiction) very very difficult. <grin> Jade Walker
Tara (taragl) Mon 18 Jun 01 10:03
Kristin - re: eBooks - I am personally going to have a hard time getting over paying nearly as much as the cost for a print copy and getting nothing tangible in return. Some of the eBooks are close in price to a hardcover copy - and frankly I'd rather feel something with weight in my hand for 19.95. However, as a non-portable, desktop format, eBooks work well for me. At work, I keep a window open to reading material for those times when I'm stumped by a problem or need a 5 minute break. I did that with the American Gods excerpt. But I'd never want just the eBook copy... I mean, how on earth would Neil sign it??
Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 18 Jun 01 10:32
Okay, I don't think Neil's Nickelodeon book really exists. In an idle five minutes I actually went through all Amazon's Mysteries--Ages 4-8, and there was nothing of the sort. Maddy's your witness, but she seems dubious too. I don't know if I need to be in a room buzzing about Martha Soukup....
Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Mon 18 Jun 01 11:12
oooh my this is exciting. i like the new digs. DANGUY, i'm so happy for you three, congratulations. i hope you have a beautiful, beautiful time getting to know your new little human. So last night i dreamed i got a threatening phone call from Mr. Croup (from Neverwhere) who was very angry because he had bought a one square foot piece of land for one Billion dollars on my recommendation. i assured him that if he dug deep enough he would find a Reebok shoe box which, if things were as i foresaw, would contain the Holy Grail. hmmm... -adriana
Kristin (kristin-liz) Mon 18 Jun 01 13:12
As far as books that I really _love_ or art books, or comics, or graphic novels go, I want them in a tangible, permanent form. eBook or not, I'd buy American Gods to be signed, and also as the culmination of much anticipation. I'm that way with a lot of books: I love the feel of the paper, the way old books smell, the weight. Besides when it's nice out I tend to read everywhere. I've been known to row a canoe out to the middle of the pond and lay in the sun reading. That said, I also wouldn't mind having ebooks on CD that I can load into a reader for situations like long trips when I'd read more than one novel, and I could read professional journals that way too. I already throw journals out after I've read them because I can search Medline to find what I need and get text much more efficiently than I can remember which article on a given subject was in which journal. Also a CD containing a couple of books takes up much less space. I don't own a two story house with an attic and a basement and a library like my grandparents did. I'm still moving every couple of years b/c of my education and every move is just a bit more work because I've accumulated another box or two.
'Walker (nightwalker) Mon 18 Jun 01 13:32
Martha - It's 'Comic Book Criminal' (Mystery Files of Shelby Woo, no. 7) by Dubowski. ISBN: 0671020072 Avail. from Amazon for $3.59... the picture for the cover has the kid in the Green Lantern shirt and everything... I'm trying to remember who found it before on here... -- 'Walker
Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 18 Jun 01 13:33
Interesting it wasn't in their Juvenile Mysteries list!
Shawn Shelby (shawnshelby) Mon 18 Jun 01 13:40
Kristin- Again, I feel very much the same way. To me it's very much like the difference in seeing a movie in a large theatre, and watching it on a little 15" tv in your kitchen. Proof that presentation can be a significant factor for some. Speaking of AG, I idley decided to call around today and see if I could find an unwitting bookstore employees before tomorrows onsale date. One of them I talked to was a little too unwitting and when I named the title and author for her she asked if he was the same person as the singer. (not knowing the definitive pronunciation I pronounce it "G-eye-man") I really tried not to laugh :^) I told her she was probably thinking of Neil Diamond and assured her that as far as I know the author I was thinking of is not currently hosting a lounge act in Las Vegas. Then she politely said she couldn't sell me the book till tomorrow. Grrr...
abbe (abbecohen) Mon 18 Jun 01 14:46
I think it's a bit early yet to use the ebook for all of your mass market paperbacks... however, I am quite happy with my much more low-tech solution. A bunch of those unfinished-wood-furniture stores sell what they describe as "media shelves" - sized for video tapes or dvds. They're barely 6" deep, the shelves are a teeny bit taller than a VHS videotape, and they house mass market paperback almost as compactly as possible (I guess you could build your own a teeny bit taller than a mass market paperback for even more efficiency.) Anyway, i find that their limited depth is perfect for paperbacks and also for cramming more bookshelves into corners that might be overwhelmed by full-sized bookshelves for full-sized books. (They also seem to just barely hold trade paperbacks.)
Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 18 Jun 01 15:28
I just went to one of those pine-furniture makers and had bookshelves made that were sized for paperbacks. An eight-foot case made with eleven shelves, and to the proper depth, is perfect. The price didn't even turn out to be too bad.
Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Mon 18 Jun 01 15:37
Return from a trip to San Francisco and umpteen hours later I'm caught up! New topic and a baby! Wow!! ::grins:: DanGuy & Lori. congrats on the little one! Have either of you gotten any sleep since the arrival (the doctor thing was quite the... "hmmmm... medical field should not be trusted" tape running in the head)? Try and get some quiet time if at all possible and enjoy the experience of being mum & dad! Laydowns & Borders. As Neil said, book stores can get in trouble with publishers if they sell a book before a laydown date. Last Friday, I checked the Borders where I work and there's a floor stand display and copies of AG in the back storage room. Expect the display may have been put together by now and will be out tomorrow morning! Re: the manager not willing to pre-order a book. Glad to hear that they are no longer working for the store. That isn't the regular policy. Borders will reserve request whatever title you want prior to it's release. Just a better way of tracking inventory quantity and hopefully having the book in stock when you walk off the street to pick it up. Smoke & Mirrors. Our friend Pete, who was visiting from NZ, mentioned he didn't have any luck picking up S&M back home so he was presented with a copy to read on his flight back. He mentioned that he was considering writing again after reading most of the book. Pete's a big Sandman/Neverwhere/Good Omen's fan but had missed the chance to read the collected books. He was taken by Neil's use of first person narrative (we're both rather taken with Goldfish Pool)and the biographical feel that some of the stories have. Needless to say, his early b-day pressie is going to be a signed copy of AG. Neil. Thank you so very much for the "to do" list for an author signing. I've never actually been the person putting one together (worked logistics for radio promotions and concerts -- been a helper at a book signing). Had a good number of your comments already planned but the suggestion about queue numbers was one I didn't think about and it will be quite helpful! We've been receiving calls from out of state -- been my experience that folks like to visit Vegas and an author reading is a good reason to do so -- thus we're expecting more than we had originally planned (not sure if it will be 399, the seating size of our venue, but we're expecting a couple of hundred). After this Sunday, I'll be bothering Mr Womack for a possible stop on your next tour (we'll hopefully be able to say Sunday's event was a smashing success, that B&N sold lots of books, and Ms. Evanovich was quite pleased with the library district). Gah... there was more but it's gone. Suppose I should go and bother the nice people at Dreamhaven & order my plane tickets for the Pasadena reading. Suzanne (who July 1st adds to the list of those who've been moving...)
Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Mon 18 Jun 01 16:03
Am still alive. All's well. So you know.
Martha Soukup (soukup) Mon 18 Jun 01 16:24
Good to know. Thanks.
Angelina Venti (velvetraisin) Mon 18 Jun 01 16:38
So excited. Not sure I'll be able to sleep properly tonight, because I'm a weenie like that. Just bought the Tool DVD, and am off to watch as much as one can take in one sitting. Angelina.
Jenny B. (ophelia-b) Mon 18 Jun 01 18:01
Adriana - Interesting dream, I hope for your sake that it is there... Okay, so today was my first day of work at my new job. Library aid at a small branch of the Dayton library. Everyone is nice, the job is easy, my feet hurt but that's okay. And of course, everyone already knows I'm a Neil Gaiman fan because I've already made sure to have next weekend entirely off for signings. I'm working and having fun, and thinking 'this is my best job ever' and then at the end of the day at closing that thought is suddenly underlined, put in bold and written in really big letters. One of the guys (I barely know anyone's name yet, but I shall call him Friend Forever) comes up and says "you're a fan of Neil Gaiman right? I've got something for you." To which I reply "Oh yeah, Jan (branch manager) told me she got an uncorrected proof and gave it to you but I'm buying my copy tomorrow so I don't need to borrow it." And he's reaching in his desk drawer saying "You don't understand, I don't want it, my girlfriend has only read Good Omens and she doesn't want it, I'm giving it to you." So, I am very very happy and my roommate has called me several unsavory names and I just thought I'd share. :-) Jen, who woke up today thinking it was the 19th and was disappointed but now is undisappointed.
Suzanne Scott (dreaming) Mon 18 Jun 01 18:24
Neil... glad to hear all is well! Get some rest if possible during the whirlwind. Know you said there wasn't anything we can bring you BUT... Jen... that was a lovely surprise happy making gift! Suzanne
Jinxie with all her body parts (jinx) Mon 18 Jun 01 18:46
DanGuy~ Blessed Be, Congratulations and I am so very happy for you. JaNell, please drop me an e-mail, I've been meaning to ask you a few questions. My sister is no longer a high school student and it was lovely, she couldn't and doesn't believe that I haven't read her present. But I was good and held out and using my last 30 bucks to pick up a copy tomorrow.(anyone wanna buy some Sandman stuff???) I have to do this, because, as I sit, prepping for the embarrassing-ness that is my Thursday, missing the signing, and wondering when the warranty on my body ran out, I need to be reading AG. Plus I know that if I blow off the colonoscopy to see Neil he'll yell at me. (please go with that Neil, it's all that's keeping me from jumping in the car now.) On top of everything, I'm no longer able to talk due to a complication of my endoscopy.........I know it's only happened once before. Jinx who knows if asked enough Walker will tell the story of when Jinx couldn't talk
Michelle Montrose-Hyman (miss-mousey) Mon 18 Jun 01 19:25
Jouni - At least your waiting for reasonable things. Stuff I'm waiting for include another raise, the opening of the San Francisco store ('soon' has been the word for the last 4 months...), and for my Burning Man stuff to organize itself. :P afn-g is the same as always. Colt has started a new group-grope since it's been so long since the last big one. And the release of AG is bringing some of the lurkers out of hiding to share info and try to meet up. It's sweet. :) JaNell - Forgot his name, but the store is "It Came From The Basement", and he's only half the character. I forget who made up the rest of the character... Jade - You understand now why I *stalk* the man? It's not enough to own so much of it. You also have to hear him read it. :) Martha - "I don't know if I need to be in a room buzzing about Martha Soukup..." - Beware the San Francisco signings. I hear that several people going to them have heard of you. Some may even ask for your autograph. :P Walker - It was <kristen-liz> who found the title in message #24. Jinx - <<<hugs!!>>> and go get your body back in working condition! can't have you missing future signings and things... squeaks - who has WAY too much to do before the tour meanders this way.
Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Mon 18 Jun 01 19:29
Hey! I got the last post in 104! How delightful. Angelina -- Such is the magic of virtual communities, I think. In the words of an unsoliceited email I got asking me to teach in China, "We never met, but by this internet I can touch you." JaNell -- Don't let anyone tell you that you are unfunny. Lenny -- I liked K&C. Just thought I'd third the recommendation. Neil -- Now I have to find that _Comic Book Criminal_ book, just to giggle at it. I was rather hoping that my copy of _AG_ would have arrived by now. Grrr.
JaNell (janell) Mon 18 Jun 01 20:16
DanGuy-Thanks. But tell it to Neil: I've sent him some of my funniest true stories related to him (ones too... well just TOO) and not one smile or "that was funny" or really any reaction at all. A very tough room. *sigh* Michelle-Jameson's address is coming-really. And I'm clueless, never heard of that store, but must find out... Jinx-Hang in there. Neil-So glad you're alive. I looked around today and thought, "something's missing... oh good lord, there's NO NEIL POSTING ANYWHERE!" which probably explained the cosmic shift thing... I had visions of you cryogenically sealed up somewhere in your publisher's basement in New York, to keep you fresh for the tour...
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