Inkwell: Authors and Artists
the nearest to a perfectly Zen post I've ever seen (goldennokomis) Mon 15 Oct 01 18:33
Yeah Bill! Now I've got one more person who can tell me, "It's Crrrraaaaaapppp!!!" if it's crap...
Jen Who Needs To Buy More Ducks (ophelia-b) Mon 15 Oct 01 20:44
Hmmm, nice place we got here, let's see how long it takes for us to trash it. ::puts comfy pillows around Angelina and calls for gorgeous peoples to bring her pudding:: Erynn - but the worse a wisdom tooth extraction is the better! because after all the healing is over you can tell your story to people who haven't had theirs out yet and watch them make interesting faces. oh, and if you've got a nice dentist you can keep the teeth and leave them lying around. Pam - The roses actually ended up being above my butt, right where the hand is supposed to go during slow dancing. Thankfully I only had to dance one dance. I was all sad though, 6 or 7 hour reception, tons of drunk people, and I only got to see one fall down on the dance floor. I spent the time teaching my little cousins how to insult peoples socks in sign language. heehee Jen, trying to convince herself to accept feedback for a story instead of pouting and going "No!"
Mary Roane (the-roane) Tue 16 Oct 01 00:17
Hey, y'all! Me & 21,300 of my closest friends just got through singing as many U2 songs as Bono could come up with. He did not stump any of us. It was, as always, a powerful show. The last encore (second) started with Bono talking about how their thoughts and prayers were with anyone who had family in the military, and also for the innocents in Afghanistan who never wanted this in the first place. Then they ran on the video screen the names of the crew and passengers of all 4 flights that crashed on the 11th while they did "One". There wasn't a dry eye in the place. They segued into "Peace On Earth" from the new album for a verse, and then launched into "Walk On", their tribute to Aung San Suu Kyi. The chorus is "Walk On, walk on, what you got they can't deny it, can't sell it, can't buy it". This was all after they did Sunday, Bloody Sunday, and Bono walked over to the edge of the stage, and instead of picking up an Irish flag (like they've been doing for 15 years) he picked up an American flag and held it as he sang the lines ""I'll wipe your tears away, I'll wipe your bloodshot eyes". The place went nuts. He also changed a lot of lyrics in "New York" from the new album, to direct references to the city's recovery from the attacks. I know a lot of people think of him as a self-important asshole, but I've never quite understood that. He talked tonight about the importance of dropping the debt in poor countries, because religious fanatacism feeds on that poverty. He's one of the very few Catholics who you can see in public living what we say we believe. He makes me proud to be Catholic. Hell, he makes me proud to be human. Having written that, I'm not even sure he still considers himself Catholic. More fool we if we've lost him. Sorry this is so long. Wanted to talk to somebody, and y'all are the only ones awake. :-) Mary (just finished father Greeley's "Irish Love", and started Caleb Carr's "Angel of Darkness")
Mary Roane (the-roane) Tue 16 Oct 01 00:26
Linda--Love the topic name! Angelina--glad you're getting better. I only had 2 of mine out, because I waited too long, and my lower ones have roots wrapped around the nerve channel. It'll be really bad if they have to take them. But my top ones were easy, so it's true-your mileage may vary. Will--you sure do know lots of cool stuff. Happy moving! 200 miles! In this day and age?! I don't know where I live anymore! Mike--I just watched the Julie Taymor Titus, and I think yours sounds *much* more interesting! :-)
the nearest to a perfectly Zen post I've ever seen (goldennokomis) Tue 16 Oct 01 01:48
I started to post, and realized that I have absolutely nothing worth saying during 4:49 am insomnia...
the nearest to a perfectly Zen post I've ever seen (goldennokomis) Tue 16 Oct 01 05:23
Four women's clinics in the Knoxville/Oak Ridge area got letters yesterday with a white powder that was alleged to be anthrax spores. The story is at http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/home/0,1406,KNS_343,00.html. One of those clinics is exactly one block from my oldest son's high school.
abbe (abbecohen) Tue 16 Oct 01 08:20
It seems wrong to follow up on JaNell's scary news report of yet more anthrax contamination with something upbeat and cheerful. But I can't not be upbeat and cheerful. Last night I saw Tori in Boston. *Great* show. [um, and the night before I saw her in Connecticut, too. If I could say this in a very small unimportant voice I would, because I don't want to gloat too much, but I think that was the best performance of hers that I've ever seen.] There was also a little surprise last night - Neil was in attendance, too. I didn't quite say hello before he ducked backstage at the direction of Tori's security team and then the show started, but I was pleased to notice that it didn't look like the entire room had suddenly noticed him and gone over to mob around. So, Neil, had I gotten the chance to say hi, I would have mentioned that on the T on the way over there was a random person reading American Gods, and I said "you know, that's a really great book you're reading" to her. I don't usually start conversations with people on their train reading, either. We chuckled when Tori pulled out 2 of her songs with Neil lyrics as a result... and I really like Tear In Your Hand, too. so thanks, Neil, for inspiring her to play it by your presence.
the nearest to a perfectly Zen post I've ever seen (goldennokomis) Tue 16 Oct 01 08:37
Well, I am absolutely envious, as it's not looking like I'll be spotting either anytime in the next few years... But that's so cool, a double sighting...
Bill^2 (billbill) Tue 16 Oct 01 08:42
Abbe, can you confirm any of the details about Tori's tour book? Most specifically I am looking for the following information: 1) Presence of Neil's story/paragraph/whatever about each of the "girls"; and 2) Price. Thanks! JaNell, we've had a spate of evacuations in mid-Michigan as well. Yesterday it was one of the small-town post offices, today it appears to be the Capitol Office Building in Lansing. And again, me with a job on a receiving dock. Loverly.
the nearest to a perfectly Zen post I've ever seen (goldennokomis) Tue 16 Oct 01 08:46
Good Lord, Bill, wear latex gloves and a mask, and use antiseptic hand wash, and don't breath... OK, maybe that last is a little extreme. <Hold on, my Ro just brought me a brush and toothpaste to "Get rid of the sugarbugs". He helped>
abbe (abbecohen) Tue 16 Oct 01 10:22
Bill: the tour book does exist, and it has Neil's stories on the girls in it. They're all on one page at the beginning, and I do like them - they're extremely short, but in a way, expressing so much about each characters in so few words is harder than coming up with a long tale, I think. The rest of the tour book is arranged like a calendar, with a large portrait of one of the characters on each page, and the calendar pages very nicely coordinated in colors to both the season and the image - very visually well done. The bummer is that it cost $20 (previous tour books that I can recall have been $10) and actually contains a lot less *new* artwork and text than I seem to recall in the other ones... oh well. For that matter, the shirts cost $30 and up. I do hope that at least Tori makes a few bucks off of the insane merchandising!
Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 16 Oct 01 12:01
E-mail from Johanna: i actually did end up talking to neil at the concert, since i happened to be re-reading "fables and reflections" (after buying the whole set recently) and i looked up and there he was. so he signed it and we chatted briefly and then i saw a wonderful tori show and altogether it was a marvelous evening. i was hoping he'd be there, even though i didn't expect to interact with him. (hi abbe, if you're reading this, it means i figured out how to get my message sent to this forum. thanks for telling me to keep an eye out for neil, otherwise i never would have seen him! and i hope no one else minds me piping up here...)
Our Wandering Tara O'Shea Has Come Home (uisgejack) Tue 16 Oct 01 12:27
Yay! I found my people! I had lost my people. It was not of the good.
Dan Guy (danfowlkes) Tue 16 Oct 01 13:02
Last night I dreamed that I'd run into Neil in the Natural History Museum and Xander drooled all over him as Neil sputtered and tried to hand him back and then everything kind of shifted and I was standing at a podium in front of an assemblage of my scientific peers accepting an award for my discovery of the anthrax-killing powers of baby drool. Lori says I was giggling in my sleep.
Jo Simons (josparrow) Tue 16 Oct 01 13:32
Mary - Yay for U2! I wish they would tour here, it has been so long, but then NZ really is out of the way for what most groups consider to be not a lot of benefit. I enjoyed "Angel of Darkness", but I think "The Alienist" was a better book. Of course that's just me :) Jo, who is moving this weekend and has packed six large boxes of books, and counting ...
My Beautiful Pea Green Goat (pamela-bird) Tue 16 Oct 01 14:15
Just showing up to say how incredibly jealous I am of all the concert goers and Neil-sighters. And Mary: Are you a speed reader? You have the most amazing reading list. You're my heroine. -Pam Who has a serious problem getting to Madison when she wants to. Wiscon, missed. Madcon, missing. Damn.
the nearest to a perfectly Zen post I've ever seen (goldennokomis) Tue 16 Oct 01 14:30
Me too, Pam. I had a nightmare about MadCon that involved some car trip with complete strangers going there where we kept running the car down dead-end alleys, finally ending up at the airport days before we needed to go, but buying tickets because they were so cheap even though it meant getting there with no place to stay a week early... So I walked out of the airport into a gravel yard where there was a firelit, post-apocalyptic performance of "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" going on, and when the audience discovered that I was there, they started beating me with rocks, even the women... Neil was around somewhere, but I had no idea where... Stop laughing, Neil.
she looks like evening (kellyhills) Tue 16 Oct 01 14:41
Hey Neil? Serious(ish) question for you... on another board, Good Omens was brought up, and the first person who responded swears that you hate it,... to quote, she said "The fact that both Gaiman -and- Pratchett hate the book is good indicator that they weren't really thinking about it much..." This is quite contrary to what I know, which I (and someone else) told her. She insists she's right and that both of you think it sucks, so I figured I'd come to the source and get your feedback. ;-) So yeah, do you think Good Omens sucks? :-) -Kelly
she looks like evening (kellyhills) Tue 16 Oct 01 14:42
Well, okay, come to 1/2 the source. Tho, if the other half is around and would like to give feedback, that'd be cool, too... -K
Jo Simons (josparrow) Tue 16 Oct 01 17:25
Hey Kelly I don't know if Terry reads this one, but I know he reads alt.fan.pratchett and posts there occasionally, so you could ask there if you don't get any response ...
she looks like evening (kellyhills) Tue 16 Oct 01 17:36
Heh Jo... I guess I could go crash his party on The Well, but it seemed kinda rude to run in and steamroll with a question and then run back out. :-) -Kelly
Jo Simons (josparrow) Tue 16 Oct 01 17:43
it's a newsgroup - even if he doesn't answer, the crazy pratchett fans should be able to let you know and/or give you directions to a reference. They're good like that and they don't mind. I don't remember there ever being anything about him or Neil not liking "Good Omens".
Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Tue 16 Oct 01 23:09
I could swear that on several occasions I remember Neil saying that it was a lot of fun writing "Good Omens" with Terry Pratchett. How he and Terry would call each other up to read chapters or fax pages back and forth. We can only imagine what didn't make the final cut. It certainly doesn't read like a stilted collaboration. That book gave me laugh lines! On that note, since have director's cuts of movies, I wonder if the same could be done for books? "Good Omens Author's Cut" anyone? Mary - Some misguided people actually believed Bono's ironic parody of himself as the jaded *rock star* several years ago, and have written him off ever since. They have no idea how relentlessly he works to get the issue of Third World debt addressed by various western nations and powerful financial institutions like the World Bank and The International Monetary Fund. The crushing debt service imposed on developing nations has stunted economic growth and contributed to a continuing cycle of poverty and exploitation through increased dependency on foreign aid. I have a lot of respect for him as someone who uses his celebrity in the service of those in need.
Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 16 Oct 01 23:09
I don't think Terry has been around since his interview ended...
Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 16 Oct 01 23:10
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