Inkwell: Authors and Artists
-N. (streak) Tue 5 Feb 02 01:59
Mothman, in _Watchmen_, was one of the original Minutemen, along with Nite Owl, the Silk Spectre, the Comedian, Hooded Justice, Captain Metropolis, and the Silhouette. He was also the only one of them to have anything resembling a superpower; the big rigid wings on his suit apparently let him glide. He showed up, very mentally decayed and with a handler, at the brief "reunion" scene in Sally Jupiter's house. Dear _god_, am I a geek. The "real" mothman was a series of rather dubious sightings of a big glowing-eyed creature sometime in the 60's or 70's, ascribed by many to UFOs. A writer whose name escapes me (Keel?) wrote a book demonstrating how these sightings proved his pet theory about something or other. The present movie has allegedly been very loosely based on the book.
double-axled haywains and Harpo Marx going honk-honk (lioness) Tue 5 Feb 02 11:55
Thanks, streak; now I want to go reread _Watchmen_. (But I don't have time, because I have to go to Tucson in two more days and look at glorious beads and stones and rocks and stuff. Ancillafelium, have you seen the harpy beads from Green Girl Studio yet?) The 199 steps at Whitby were duly climbed, and arcane invocations uttered, and requests for useful visits of various muses to them as wants 'em were made. And lovely little strange things for Neil were gathered in Iceland, where the staff of one Reykjavik hotel had some fun helping me think of what to get. (I'm still not sure whether one cryptic note ought to decipher into a kind a seaweed or a hallucinogenic bread, though. In either case, I couldn't find any of that.) Happily, Juan and I had a copy of AMERICAN GODS along, intended to be given away at the gathering at the end of our trip, so we each got to read the relevant Reykjavik bit while traveling. (I read it when we were there, in fact. Juan read it after, but it was his first time reading the book, so the effect was heightened anyhow. He pronounced it very good indeed, which is pretty cool coming from somebody who generally avoids reading books by people he knows, for his own odd reasons.) Anyhow, hello again, everybody, and I hope life is treating you well. I'm glad to hear about getting positive reviews (mostly positive, anyhow), Dan. And I'm sorry not to be seeing people at Boskone, but am looking forward to the whole Galacticon/Minicon/MileHiCon/World Fantasy thing with Mr. Ford. (And I think he'd make a lovely history teacher. Splendidly demented lesson plans, I bet, too. Could be a good programming item for one of those convention GoH gigs, in fact. Hmmmmm....)
Linda Castellani (castle) Tue 5 Feb 02 16:42
Tucson! Not you, too! <sulking>
Patricia Clarkson (pclarkson) Wed 6 Feb 02 06:36
Thanks for the welcomes! (Pam: you may regret encouraging me to "post long" :) ) John M. & Streak: Your responses concerning "Mothman" were appreciated. The connection to the TV show was mentioned (but seemingly not verified) in the Keel book, if I am remembering correctly, and I will check my copy when it is returned. O.K., I will admit to watching "Batman" and although I can't remember the Tick, I do remember (and this is very revealing) anxiously waiting to watch the episode with Sonny and Cher. Mary and Dan Guy: Thanks for mentioning Harlequin Valentine last week-had forgotten- so I did find it, buy it, read it, like it! Have a great day everyone! Back to filling out tax forms...........pc
Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Wed 6 Feb 02 09:33
Patricia - You don't remember the Tick because he wasn't on Batman... he's a contemporary spoof superhero whose sidekick wears a mothsuit... the interleaving of the two references misled you, I'm afraid. On the comics front: the lighting guy for Steambath loaned me his complete set of Preacher graphic novels, which I had never read before. I finished devouring them Monday night (ok... it was morning by the time I finished them... I just couldn't put the last two volumes down) and just gotta say: wow. I'm not sure which is "better" ... waiting every month for a new installment, or getting to read the whole thing as a continuous narrative ... but it's one hell of a read. I understand the confusion as to whether or not Ennis was taking potshots at Neil, though. The gothy writer in shades *did* have an awfully close resemblance to our favorite leather jacketed expatriate.
Annie the Harpy (ancillafelium) Wed 6 Feb 02 10:21
My boyfriend has #4,5, and 6 of the trades, so I've now (in classic Annie style) read the middle set of the Preacher g.n.'s. Despite the loads and loads of violence (which us girly types aren't supposed to like, what a freak am I), I rather like them and am itching to get ahold of all of them. Which one has the pseudo-Neil? And on the subject of comics, what other series are to be recommended? Between Sandman and Preacher, I'm rather developing a taste for them, but I don't want to spend my scanty cash on crappy ones. And whoeveritwas (sorry, bad memory!): Harpy beads? Where?
Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 6 Feb 02 10:33
Dan -- well, I phoned Steve Dillon, when that came out, who seemed very puzzled that people thought it was me. "But I've known you for years," he said. `"If it was meant to be you, it would have *looked* like you, not just some bloke with dark hair and dark glasses." He said it wasn't, and he's a man of his word. in hiding, writing, with incedibly limited web access. Hope all's well with everybody.
Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Wed 6 Feb 02 12:05
Jo! Mike! streak! Neil! More family's at home. *happy mumbles* Patricia: I'm sure I won't. Do your worst! Maure: I used to play the clarinet, too! And I swear I had a dream not to long ago about trying to play it again, for some totally unknown reason. I have a weird relationship with the clarinet--deep feelings of resentment and insecurity. Because all the pretty, popular girls got to play the flute, when the band teacher picked instruments for us.
Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Wed 6 Feb 02 12:15
uh. i play the flute. *blushing* but seriously i feel your pain, Pamela, as i was the ONLY non-pretty, non-popular flute player and i was reminded of such on a constant basis. OH, THE CRUELTIES OF BAND!! *sob* ...i have something in my eye.
Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 6 Feb 02 14:30
Annie, not sure what anyone else would suggest, but I've been hooked on Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis for a while. I really like Herobear and the Kid, by Mike Kunkel, but there are only four issues out right now, and there seems to be an eternity between each issue. Hellblazer has some good writing, and some bad writing; it's really hit and miss for me. I have friends who swear by the Invisibles. I haven't tried that title yet. I really like one I just picked up, Queen and Country, but I can't testify to the quality of Q&C overall. I liked it enough to start collecting the issues and give it a shot though. Pamela, I played saxophone! All I wanted in all the world was to play oboe. The girl who got to play oboe was this lithe, gorgeous, super-popular girl, and there was only one oboe. Morning band practice at first was a daily practice in agony, until I discovered that alto sax can play the french horn part quite nicely, and it added a counterpoint to what we were supposed to play. I would switch sheet music with a friend who played french horn, and we'd play each other's music. The director, a crabby bitter man with beady eyes, would stop us continually and tell us that someone was playing something wrong, but it sounded ok, and he couldn't put his finger on it, but for whoever it was to cut it out. But my school was much the same as yours - the pretty, popular girls mostly played flute. In defiance, I played baritone saxophone for a while, but it was too heavy to carry from the bus stop, so I quit and went back to alto. Sorry. Got a little wound up with the band memories.
Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Wed 6 Feb 02 16:00
Annie: As far as collections go, I'd have to recommend Astro City (which has, sadly, seemed to vanish from quasi-regular production but is available in Graphic Novel format), Bone (which is also close to ending ... has it already finished?... it's monthly run and is only two volumes from being completely available in Graphic Novel format). Speaking of comics... on the way home from a particularly boring meeting in the city, I swung by a comic shop near the BART station. I glanced over the new titles, and saw some Captain Universe or something or other from Marvel... with Spider-Man 2099 on the cover. Now, the destruction of the 2099 universe infuriated me enough to get me to swear off Marvel comics altogether. I was collecting several of the titles in that universe and was really enjoying the ride (despite the occasional universe-wide marketing events that Marvel imposed from time to time). So, with fear and trepidation, I picked up the issue of Captain Marvelous (or whatever he was called) and thumbed through it until I saw some familar faces. Yep, there they were. Miguel O'Hara and his brother Gabe. Tyler Stone. Jordan Boone. Thanatos... but all in the condition they were in at the very beginning of Spider-Man 2099's run and all horribly written. I put Captain Atomic down and walked out, saddened. this is all apropos to nothing, but I figured that this would be an audience who understood my frustration. Neil - Yes, I remember you saying that a while back. I'd be interested to see how Steve Dillon *would* draw you, cause to someone who has only seen you at a single book signing (and the odd photo here and there), I thought he kinda looked like a young you. But then again, with the usual stylizations of comic art (and I'm not referring to super-hero muscles/breasts), it's easy to look at any drawing of a slightly shaggy haired, sunglasses wearing, dark haired, writer and wonder... "hmmmmm?" In any event, I knew it wasn't you... but I can understand how lots of people might think that.
Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Wed 6 Feb 02 20:50
Maure - I'm one of your friends who swears by "The Invisibles." ;> And I would also recommend reading Grant Morrison's run on "Animal Man" and "Doom Patrol." Never a dull moment. Dan - Yes indeed, "Preacher" was an amazing ride. Garth was also writing the late great "Hitman" comic too. In a horrible double whammy it ended around the same time as "Preacher." Has anyone else read this comic? Absolute hysteria and issue #36 probably had the best Superman story ever written. And why do I keep seeing Cameron Diaz as Tulip? I know there's a website out there that has compiled all of Neil's appearances in various comics, or maybe I'm thinking of one of Squiddie's index on alt.thingie?
Mary Roane (the-roane) Wed 6 Feb 02 22:22
I read Preacher, too, but haven't read.....oh, the last few issues I guess. So no spoilers! One day I'll get around to them. <grumbles> I'll probably feel I have to own the whole shebang if I think about it for any length of time. Annie--I'm a freak, too--the violence didn't bother me at all. OK, I'll 'fess up. I played flute. But I was the biggest geek in my whole high school--the only nonpopular one. I made up for it by being better than they were. I had plenty of time to practice since my social calendar wasn't exactly hoppin'. It helped that I loved to practice & my band director was a saint. An absolute prince, whose feet I still worship. God, this whole band thing will really get ya goin', won't it? Maure-- I love that story! It must have driven him nuts! Hee-hee! Dan--I sympathize. I think one of the reasons I stopped buying &/or reading comics was stupid, contrived plotlines, changing things for *no* reason. (Can you tell I used to be an X-Men fan?) Things either get thrown in the trash & completely rewritten for no apparent reason, OR absolutely nothing changes. Ever. Kitty Pride must have been 14 for 10 years! It's what made Sandman so appealing--Dream changed. Not enough, in the end, but he changed. Characters died *and stayed dead*! Bloody revolutionary, that. Oh, my God, I'm turning into Dennis Miller--2 rants in one post. I need sleep. <Waves at Neil> It was sweet of you to come by! Good writing vibes your way! Do writers have a patron saint? she asks herself......must ask Mad Denny the Priest a'Sunday...<goes off mumbling> Mary (reading Hemlock at Vespers by Peter Tremayne)
Linda Castellani (castle) Wed 6 Feb 02 23:37
I have been told that Ganesh is the patron saint of writers and thieves.
Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 7 Feb 02 06:05
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Bill^2 (billbill) Thu 7 Feb 02 07:55
Mary -- Just his feet? How funny. :) I'm pretty sure that I qualify as a non-band band geek. It always seemed like the people I hung out with, or dated, were always in the band. Never could hack it myself, though. I can train myself, after much repetition, not to sound too bad singing, but that seems to be the limit of it. Maure -- That is terrific.
Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Thu 7 Feb 02 09:19
Mary - That whole dying and coming back thing, and the changing for no good reason thing really killed my enjoyment of some of the mainstream comics. I loved Ghost Rider, but around the same time as they destroyed 2099, they reinvented his origins... completely disregarding the past few years of development and even gave him a new costume (which I noticed vanished about six months later based on the covers). This was around the same time as the Spider-Man clone mess. It's a horrible thing when something you really enjoy becomes ruined... Danguy - there's always Amazon.... just to get you started...
Lenny Bailes (jroe) Thu 7 Feb 02 11:52
Dan -- The Superman-like guy in Astro City is called The Samaritan. He's got a tougher job than the classic Man of Steel.
dreaming of flying (pamela-bird) Thu 7 Feb 02 15:42
Okay, I'm confused. Didn't someone post about playing the clarinet recently? Am I now dreaming Mob folk, too? Maure: How fabulously subversive of you! It's outrageous that we all carry so much baggage from band! We must free ourselves! * Public Service Announcement: The Barking Mad Mob will be howling at the full moon on Wednesday, February 26, in a collective attempt to express our latent band trauma. Harmony skills not required. Former flute players will be required to prove that they never won any class popularity elections. Sympathy howls from those disturbed by dating band members also welcome.
Adriana Roze (ariadne26) Thu 7 Feb 02 15:56
OK, y'all, here's the deal. All of you crazy Iron Giant fans, please email me if you are interested in obtaining a foam-core 2-D (there are two levels to it) Iron Giant poster that is very pretty. it's a trade show or theatre type of item and is completely brand new, and is all in shades of blue. I promise you will like it. If you can, please email me ASAP, as I need to place the order. if you don't take them, they will be destroyed soon. i am pretty sure i will be able to send them to you for free. WHOOPEE!! Pam- I will be attending said event, and I will mourn. Oh, and it won't be hard to prove my past dorkiness. PAST! I said it was in the PAST! I'm supercool now. hehe.
Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Thu 7 Feb 02 16:15
BTW: Adriana and Jinx--I'm trying to reach you via email. Please check your inbox. Thanks!
Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Thu 7 Feb 02 16:59
Astro City...I really miss that comic. And The Samaritan was an analogous to Superman but with a twist, he loved flying but got to any destination in an instant. Mary - Don't give up on comics yet. There are few out there worth reading such as Alan Moore's "Promethea" and "Top Ten"; Terry Moore's "Strangers in Paradise" and David Lapham's "Stray Bullets." I recently returned to "The Amazing Spiderman" because J. Michael Straczynski of Babylon 5 is doing a mighty fine job with one of my favorite heroes. And I've heard good news about Harlequin Valentine...wow..yet another wonderful collaboration with John Bolton. Couldn't wait 'til Valentine's Day to read mine. ;>
Roxanne Cataudella (rocky-nyc) Thu 7 Feb 02 17:20
Mary - See what happens when the phone rings and you don't finish a sentence? Anyway, I've heard good news about the Marvel Knights imprint recently. Always had a soft spot for Green Arrow and rumor has it that Kevin Smith is doing a good job. And one last recommendation try "100 Bullets" by Brian Azzarello. Gritty, bare-knuckled and damn good.
Annie the Harpy (ancillafelium) Fri 8 Feb 02 07:22
DanGuy, if you don't mind e-bay, check for Preacher collections there. I've been consistently finding both Preacher and Sandman for a little cheaper than Amazon, even with shipping and all. Plus many of them are on "buy it now" auctions, which are infinitely preferable to having to fight tooth and nail for stuff. Bill- thank goodness. I was starting to think I was the only high school choir person here. I did, however, date a couple of guys in band and tended to hang out with band people. For some reason they were infinitely more fun than the choir people (most of whom couldn't carry a tune in a bucket *siiiiiigh*). Oooohhh...thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. Now i'll have even more things to read this summer (well, in between pedagogy and Middle Welsh classes). No time now, unfortunately; much too busy reading such fascinating texts as Pseudo-Albertus Magnus' "Women's Secrets," Trotula's "Diseases of Women," and various and sundry female writers from the English Renaissance. Have I mentioned how much i love being a grad student?
Pamela Basham (pamela-bird) Fri 8 Feb 02 17:19
My husband is dropping not-so-subtle hints that maybe, just maybe I shouldn't buy HV until after Valentine's Day, so I'm doing the hand-sitting, nail-biting, knee-bobbing thing to try to keep from buying it before then. Here's just a little giggle from my blog, for Neildom. http://www.xanga.com/item.asp?user=Pamela_bird&tab=weblogs&uid=804906 Wishing everybody a bright weekend.
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