Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Wed 27 Mar 02 12:29
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Tracey Carlson (jinx) Wed 27 Mar 02 16:07
Adriana~ seen it, bought the DVD player for Kevin Smith movies actually,...I'm a secret sucker for dick and fart jokes, with wry humor inserted in between. As a side note, My mother just (literally, I took the laptop to the hospitial) woke up (sorta) from the reverse the temp colostimy, things are looking so much better. Annie,...roast kitten, sounds like when I threaten to take mine to the chinese place down the street. Oh man, I just heard Dudley Moore just passed,...after seeing him in Bedazzled, I've always liked him, even in the not-so-good movies. He said in his last interview, "There's not much point feeling angry. There's always this feeling of 'Why did it hit me?' and I cannot make peace with it because I know I am going to die from it." This strikes me as a very honest statement. Blessed Be to all
Maure Luke (maureluke) Wed 27 Mar 02 19:10
Milton Berle has died as well. When I was 12, I suddenly and inexplicably became obsessed with Peter Sellers and Dudley Moore. I watched everything I could find, and bought copies of most of that. Milton Berle had this way of popping up in a cameo role in some of my favorite movies ever, including a goofy Marilyn Monroe movie I watched maybe a billion times in high school. My grandmother told me a story a long time ago about Milton Berle that she had heard from her father, who had a bit part in a movie with him. I completely forgot about that until today. It's strange and sad and sweet, that people I've never met are all tied up in things about myself I forgot. Hearing about their deaths brought up all these other things I haven't thought about in a long long time.
Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Wed 27 Mar 02 19:26
Jouni -- it's probably up to the Scandinavian publishers, and up to how much I can do in a year. Dan Guy -- I'm pleased you enjoyed the book. Currently I don't feel like any of those things, but then, I'm tired from too much flying. Annie -- I know how you feel (and I've been escaping a lot from the eternal winter this year). Tracey -- yup. I called Dave McKean, who has always loved Dudley Moore. And it was Terry Pratchett who long ago pointed out to me what a great actor Moore was: in Bedazzled you can see how uncomfortable Cook is and how he's looking for his cue cards, while Dudley makes you believe... Maure -- yup. Mike Ford -- if you're out there, seeing we've been having bits of this in conversation for many years... Someone's sending me a copy of The Final Affair; I found JM (formerly Hank but you'd not know it from the Prisoner covers)website about McDaniel http://www.manfromuncle.org/mcdanielbystine1.htm -- and found a website which claims that Rafe Bernard, author of the oddest of the INVADERS novels, was actually Keith Laumer (who wrote the first couple)...
Neil Gaiman (neilgaiman) Thu 28 Mar 02 06:06
Oops. The word Stine fell off the last posting, after Hank.
Daniel (dfowlkes) Thu 28 Mar 02 07:22
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John M. Ford (johnmford) Thu 28 Mar 02 08:06
Dan -- to compress a long and complicated story, the late David McDaniel wrote what just about everyone considers the best of the original UNCLE novels from Ace -- DAGGER AFFAIR, MONSTER WHEEL, RAINBOW, UTOPIA, and I know I'm missing one or two. (He also wrote one of the PRISONER originals, which involves the Secret Masters giving Number Six KAR 120C as a distraction, but whose title I forget.) He also wrote THE FINAL AFFAIR, whose plotline I won't give away, but which was never published. Copies exist, and there have been various attempts to get it into print over the last three decades, but something has always interfered. Incidentally, the editor on the Ace series was the great (and also unfortunately late) Terry Carr, wonderful editor, outstanding though insufficiently prolific sf writer, and fine guy in general. Extremely incidentally, DAGGER AFFAIR (which is about the inner workings of THRUSH) led to the creation of THE FINAL REFLECTION, but that's a -really- odd and much less interesting story. Oh, and Mr. Hank Stine (not to be confused with G. Harry Stine), author and onetime editor of GALAXY magazine, is now Ms. JM Stine. And I haven't even mentioned the . . . uhm, whatever.
Mary Roane (the-roane) Thu 28 Mar 02 21:17
So it's Holy Thursday (or Maundy Thursday, if you like). There is a tradition in many Catholic parishes to have a supper before the Mass, modeled on a Passover seder. There was one tonight, and when Denny got up to give the homily, he brought a glass of wine over to the ambo. He talked about seders, and seder traditions, particularly the tradition of having the children call out the ten plagues of Egypt. Everyone takes a few drops of wine from their glass for every plague, to remind themselves that while it may have been a joyous thing for the Jews, other people were suffering, and their joy must therefore be diminished. Then he talked about allegations in a neighboring parish that their priest abused a teenager 25 years ago, and his removal pending investigation. He said, "When I hear about allegations like these, and the pain of the parishioners, I am saddened, and we are all diminished." And he poured a few drops of wine from the glass into a bowl. And he talked about the victims of all the recent cases, and their betrayal by authorities who swept allegations under the carpet, and said, "When I hear these things, I am saddened and we are all diminished". And poured a few more drops. He brought up the Passover bombing in Israel, Enron, Sept. 11th, hearing parishioners backbiting and fighting over petty things, seeing committees struggle for power at the expense of the good of the parish, the deaths of friends and family members. Each time, "I am saddened, and we are all diminished". And a few more drops of wine. You could have heard a caterpillar crawl in that church. We were mesmerized by the beauty of the image. Me, I just cried. But I got accustomed, a long time ago, to Denny making me weep like a child. As scary as it is to be that vulnerable, I wouldn't trade one of his homilies for 10 pounds of Godiva. Thank God he's not that moving every week. ;-)
Annie Heckel (ancillafelium) Thu 28 Mar 02 21:44
Mary- Wow. That's really all there is to say to that. To everyone who actually celebrates Passover or Holy Week, a peaceful and reflective holiday to you.
Maure Luke (maureluke) Fri 29 Mar 02 10:53
Lisa Snellings Clark's art is fucking gorgeous.
Lenny Bailes (jroe) Fri 29 Mar 02 19:06
Dave McDaniel and Hank Stine were both good friends of mine in the '60s. Dave was known in fandom under the name "Ted Johnstone" where he wrote and sang filk songs. (One of them "Widsith's Song" was inspired by an interesting novel-a-clef called "Silverlock." ) I remember Dave/Ted best for his folk renditions of "The Wild Colonial Boy" which inspired me to want to learn how to play guitar. Hank acknowledged me as a root source in the dedication to his first Prisoner novel, which was as close to fame as I ever got in those days. I'm at Minicon, right now. Finally picked up the new Flash Girls album and listened to a couple of tracks on my computer's CD ROM drive. I'm looking forward to seeing/hearing them tomorrow night. There's going to be a music party in a couple of hours, to which I've been invited to bring my harmonicas. (There'll also be a general filk music space in one of the convention rooms.) The young con committee appears to be bearing up well, so far. They were accompanied at the opening session by rolling drum support provided by Steven Brust, Jeff Schalles, Fred Hollander, and others.
pining for the smell of thawing dirt (miss-mousey) Fri 29 Mar 02 19:30
Maure - Well, bits of it are kind of scattered all over my apartment just now, so I haven't forgotten. And Lisa Snellings (and her art) are cool. I have one of her pieces in my bedroom. If you ever get one, these days it will not be allowed as a carry on item... just so you know. Pam - I liked the description. :) Jade - Enjoy the trip! Mmm... pretty sunsets. Damnit, I need another vacation. This not-going-anywhere-now-so-I-can-afford-to-go-later thing sucks! On kittens not roasted - My cat (er, that would be the ex-boyfriend's cat, who actually lives with him, and I've never forgiven him for that) stretches out on the back seat (we opened the door to the cage) and enjoys the sun. Especially on the freeway. Once you hit stop-and-go traffic, or sharp turns, she's all nervous again, but then she settles down. The best was when I used to bring her home from the vet. She'd be all worked up on her way there, but when we left she was calm (and probably a little exhausted). She'd be all perfumed from the flea bath, with a ridiculous pink ribbon round her neck, and curled up in the back seat warming herself in the sunlight. Then we'd stop at McDonald's and I'd order fries and a soda and I'd give her a couple french fries. I don't know how it got started, but it was tradition. erg.. now I'm hungry. And damnit, I want a kitty cat! squeaks, no offense to the rodent critters whom I love.
Annie the harpy (ancillafelium) Sat 30 Mar 02 11:27
Squeaks, i still have a couple extra cats that i foisted off on my mom. She'd be happy to give them up. ;) Really sweet, loving kitties, but not very well behaved- they've both got varying amounts of maine coon cat in them (i think the mother is half, so her daughters are about a quarter or so m.c.). I've never met a set of cats who're so agile yet so clumsy; they can climb up onto just about anything, but then invariably knock a whole bunch of stuff down before we manage to remove them. They're like large dogs stuck in cat bodies. So strange. It's finally becoming more spring-like up here! Weather in the 60's today and tomorrow, but then we get another bit of lake-effect snow on thursday... *siiiiiigh* annie h.
Maure Luke (maureluke) Sat 30 Mar 02 23:27
Mary and Tara, have either of you ever gone to a Giant Step show? They're a band that plays at the Doubledoor a lot. I work with the singer's sister, and promised her I'd do some promoting. So this is me, promoting. They're pretty good. I'm not the best judge of rock-type music, but they're really fun live. They play with another local band, Verbow, pretty often. Michelle, will make a note of that (not carry-on-able). My poor laptop went through the wringer, literally - a man asked whether or not he could run some tests on it and put it through this thing that looks like a sideways washing machine. He let two other laptop people through. I must look relatively dangerous. You would laugh at that, if you knew what I look like (think the little blue fairy, Merriwether, from Disney's Sleeping Beauty). I really love two of the Snellings pieces I saw, and want to buy one, but I'll have to negotiate with my inner accountant for a while. She's generally a pushover, but can be the nastiest creature when it's an amount I can't justify by saying, "I'd have just spent it on food or alcohol anyway."
I need a longer attention sp- Ooh, feet! (miss-mousey) Sun 31 Mar 02 13:35
Lisa Snellings *Clark*... erg! Well, to be fair, I don't think she was married when I met her. I was walking down Market Street the other day and the SPCA or Humane Society or somesuch organization had a little booth set up and two sweet kitties in cages waiting to be adopted. If the apartment complex I live in would allow for cats (which they should, as there are 18 living in the complex from the time before the rule was made!) I would have taken one of them home. The rats wouldn't have minded, and the mice could live in the bathroom. Eep, I'm just going through feline withdrawal syndrome. It's my current primary reason for wanting to move. Maure - It's the harmless, sweet, innocent looking ones that are most dangerous, so naturally you and your laptop were a target for search. Also, wearing the silly Merriwether garb tends to attract attention... Neil - Fingers crossed for the Bram Stoker Award. And yay for Caitlin! "The First Adventures of Miss Catterina Poe" was one of my favourite Dreaming stories ever... even before the recent kitty obsessiveness. -squeaks, who must concern herself with an overweight mouse now.
Lenny Bailes (jroe) Sun 31 Mar 02 17:05
re my #61: that should have been Fred Haskell (not Hollander), Minneapolis' famous Minicon founder, guitar player, and Jerry Garcia look-alike. I saw Neil, briefly, in the hall the day after the music party referenced above. At the party, I found myself playing harmonica next to a spunky- looking female guitar player. The guitar player eventually resolved into I knew when she started playing the "I Would Walk a Thousand Miles" song. I didn't see anyone from this list other than Neil and Laurel Krahn at the Flash Girls concert (unless you count pnh, who was up on stage providing stawart guitar support for them). Emma wore an interesting costume that made her look like a cross between a Jaguar Woman and an insect super-heroine. (I was privileged to be on a panel with Emma, Steve Brust, and Peg Kerr before the concert on Music in Fiction, where we discussed ways that science fiction stories evoke a sense of music and musicians in readers. Authors who were mentioned included R.A McAvoy, Pat Wrede, Pamela Dean, and Patricia McKillip, along with Steve and Emma, themselves.) There was a music party after the Flash Girls, and there's going to be one tonight, too, in a couple of hours.
Maure Luke (maureluke) Sun 31 Mar 02 17:21
Lenny, it sounds like you're having a fabulous time. I have yet to hear the Flash Girls live. I completely missed them at MadCon. How do you mean, the writing evokes a sense of musicians? Do you mean, the writing's rhythm and cadence is like music, or that the writing is reminiscent of specific music or musicians that exist apart from the story? I understand both, really. What an interesting panel that would be.
Tree--I am the Tim Tam Queen! (jinx) Sun 31 Mar 02 23:14
Hmmm, that came off a bit more Gilbert and Sullivan and less Simpson-esque than I intended. Neil--Dianna Graf says hello and is most chuffed at her entry in AITDT. She and her boy Mark came to play with me in Melbourne over the Easter break and I took some time out from being Countess Snot-ular (flu, don't ask) to take them to the greatest pub in the world and and the Gershwin room and the room behind the Gershwin room and to the toilet that all the famous people go to. And there were circus people and perfumiers and puppies and fairies. No. Really. And it's not the medication talking. Tree Who is very very tired and back in Brisbane again.
Dan Wilson (stagewalker) Mon 1 Apr 02 09:50
I am very tired this morning... but it is Monday and that sort of thing is to be expected. Among other things, I got my hair bleached and dyed silver this weekend, so I now look about 20 years older than I am. When I use this thick white eyebrow pencil on my eyebrows and mustache, the transformation is damn near complete and *poof* Einstein walks the streets of San Francisco. I'll have to post a photo soon... It threw my family for a loop, as I hadn't told them i was doing it and simply showed up for Easter supper with my hair a wild tangle of silver locks. They've learned by now to expect almost anything from me, though, so it was more of a "tickled and startled" than "stunned and horrified." All of this is apropos to nothing, but I felt the need to post something this morning and I haven't read my Lafferty books yet (although they did finally arrive this weekend.).
Tara O'Shea (uisgejack) Mon 1 Apr 02 12:31
yay goldfish yay! I spent the week-end up in Wisconsin with the backflip boy. Saturday night, we got together with a bunch of friends from Bristol, and two of the backflip boy's martial arts/gymnastics buds and had much too much fun on the spring floor and tumble track and tramps at the gym where the boy teaches kids to be upside down and stuff in Burlington. He tried to teach me to do a back hand spring, but I fell on my head. Twice. Apparently, need more upper body strength first. I am very very sore in place I ddin't even know I had, today. But a good time was had by all. Maure Luke: Yay! I am definitely going on Saturday to the con, and I shall bring you a chinese yo-yo. Nope, haven't seen Giant Step. What sort of music are they? I was a very bad monkey and hid in my apartment and missed both Fonnmhor and the Prodigals when they played Chicago in March. I suck. Mary: I's coming! I swear! Um... how are we getting there, again?
Mary Roane (the-roane) Mon 1 Apr 02 22:24
Tara--the Blue Line? Speaking of ....did y'all hear that we had a guy living in the train tunnels here in Chicago? Bit of a nutter (shades of Eddie Izzard going, "weirdo transvestite....executive transvestite") He was sort of "weirdo Neverwhere denizen". But I still wanted to ask him if he knew the Marquis..... Maure--Tara *will* bring you a Chinese yo-yo. She'd bring one to Neil, too, but he's usually being Grown Up, and won't fap people with yo-yos. I think "fap" is a lovely word. Mary (who got Live at the Ambassadors *&* Urepeatable today, and is now eligible to take over the world)
Lenny Bailes (jroe) Tue 2 Apr 02 09:55
Maure: the panel covered both points you mentioned. Emma was mostly interested in the rhythm and cadence thing, and I talked about authors who put musicians in their stories, a bit. (Steve Brust made drummer jokes.) One author I didn't get to mention is Grant Carrington, who wrote a Fennario story for Ted White's Amazing Stories in the '70s featuring a Jerry Garcia-like guitar player in a future setting.
Maure Luke (maureluke) Tue 2 Apr 02 20:42
Tara, a Chinese yoyo?? You're not referring to the wonderful cello player, are you? Giant Step is, I don't know. Loud, and spastic. Interesting lyrics, some good songs, and some throwaway ones. But I mostly listen to old jazz and odd music - I have no idea what's on the radio these days, so I can't think of a comparison. It sort of reminds me of early nineties indy/college rock. I don't know. Mary, I didn't hear about the nutter in the tunnels! Which line? What's his name? Do I know him? How interesting. And . . . chinese yoyo?? Is that the thing on the stick that slides out in a spiral? I'm always looking for new ways to whack the students . . . They think it's excruciatingly funny when I threaten them with, "If you don't have this done, I will beat you with a stick!" Maybe I can change "stick" to "chinese yo-yo." Lenny, I'd have loved to listen to that panel. A lot of good writing reminds me of music, one way or the other. Some bad writing does too, actually. And some writers have a particular rhythm and cadence that is common to all of their work - I guess people generally call this the writer's "voice?" I don't know. In the magazine Downbeat, they do this thing - the Blindfold test - where they have a guest musician listen to recordings. Sometimes they've heard it before, sometimes not, but the musician has to figure out who's on what instrument, a lot of times they tell the era, and they give a brief review of what they're hearing. My ex-roommate made me do this game until I could tell in seconds whether a tenor player was Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, or Ben Webster - it really works after a while - none of them sound alike to me now. The reason I'm babbling about this is because there are some writers whose writings you can identify as theirs right away, even without cheating. For me, that's like the jazz singers - easily discernable, for the most part. And then there are some writers who are more subtle (these are generally my favorites), whose writing is unique, but who write so organically that the tone and the composition is intricate enough to be tricky to someone who hasn't spent months doing the blindfold test as practice for spotting the little tells. I've never really tried to put this into words, so I apologize if I'm so jumbled that what I've really done is just stolen minutes of your life you will never get back. I probably should have thought about it more before writing. I'm too exhausted today to think about re-writing this tomorrow, so I'm posting it anyway. Sorry!
the slightly blind and ever procrastinating... (miss-mousey) Tue 2 Apr 02 21:02
As my glasses are at LensCrafters overnight and I *really* don't feel like doing my workout. Although after Tara's back handspring incident, I maybe should get offline and start up the videotape... Lenny - That panel sounds awesome. I would have loved to have been there. Maure - I know exactly what you mean. I don't do it so much with writing as with music; but the few authors I have read much of definitely have a rhythm and a style that makes all their work particularly their own. It's why I can buy something by the few authors I collect in First Edition Hardcover without having heard anything about it, knowing I'll like it. I find that the people who are still trying to find their style, or who purposefully try to alter it, are the people I'm more hit-or-miss with. The best is when you have more than one artist collaborating on a piece (music or writing) and you find yourself being able to pick out little pieces of who did what - doesn't work so well if you can draw distinct lines between the collaborators, but in little bits here and there I find it fun and fascinating. Dan - So how long is the hair going to be like that? Wanna be sure to sneak in a photo or four. Which reminds me... am I the only person taking photos from Barking Mad Poker? I'm (very slowly) putting up a page of photos, but if anyone else has any to add... Tree - You sound like me when I was trying to describe stuff at the Gorey Ball ('Death and Batties and Fairies, oh my!') Neil - You called Robert Zemeckis "Bob". It sounds so bizarre... Not as bizarre as if you were to call him "Abigail" or something, but it's still strange to me. Um, that's it. OH! When climbing stuff in the storage room at work, make sure the crate you lean on for support is actually well grounded, because when it falls it kind of takes you with it and then you very nearly have to replace the company phone... *sigh. (I'm fine now) This public service announcement brought to you by: squeaks, who has learned the hard way that screaming really doesn't do much unless the people you're screaming at can actually hear you. :)
Jinx/Tracey playing the evil twin game (jinx) Tue 2 Apr 02 21:11
Man,..........I actually voted on moving. Long ago and far away there lived a little girl. She was tired of living in her small town, with no water in sight. She listened to her father's tale of the sea where he grew up every night as she slipped into sleep. When asked to cast the deciding vote in wheather the family moved 15 years ago,.....she voted for the sea. Now,.....as she sits in front to the glowing green and reads the list, of everyone one she's ever wanted to meet who is still living, a list that takes place in the very town she voted against living in, a single tear runs down her cheek. Man,...... Tracey who has taken artistic licence with the tears part
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