Charlie Stross (charlie-stross) Thu 16 Jan 03 13:10
Seriously, there is stuff bubbling up from under about the whole IP situation. What Baen Books have been doing with their free library has been getting attention; I was ranting about this at ConJose, and there in the audience was a certain editor from Tor, nodding like his head was about to fall off. (And it wasn't Cory's editor, either.) Here's a prediction: the big media conglomerates that own the music and film companies that are members of the RIAA and MPAA *also* own lots of book and magazine publishers. And the guys who deal in text are a lot more laid back than Hilary Rosen and friends would like. Sooner rather than later the whole DRM and open content controversy is going to stop being [huge corporate goliaths] vs. [the rest of us] and turn into an internal boardroom fight over what IP policy the media corporations ought to take. At which point, Cory and friends (I include myself here, if you don't mind) are going to find allies behind what were formerly the enemy barricades. In the long term, of course, the only way to *really* secure intellectual property is to come up with a means of selective memory erasure. But that's a whole 'nother can of worms ... Bruce: if Cory did not exist, would you feel it necessary to invent him?
Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 16 Jan 03 17:04
E-mail from J. M. Brenner: I caught your reading at Stacey's in SF yesterday, and I'm afraid that while the Q&A period struck me as vintage Sterling, I'm afraid that the paean to your cell phone didn't go over that well with me. The dark side of cell phones is that they appear to be astoundingly addictive for some people, to the point that they regularly risk their lives to go driving around chatting on them, with that distinctive cell-phone user look: eyes glazed over, grinning to themselves, cruising on auto-pilot. I used to try and make "hang it up" gestures at these people, but it's no use: they can't see you. What data there is on the subject shows that this behavior is "as dangerous as drunk driving", but these people either haven't gotten the word, or are engaging in some serious denial. So for you, "cell phones" are symbols of being connected, but for me they're a sign of being dangerously disconnected. And further, I think it's pretty demonstrable that increasing connectivity is not *always* a good idea. c.f. Kevin Kelley's reporting on "Kauffman's Law" in Chapter 20 of "Out of Control". This is a point that seems intuitively obvious to me, because I've worked at jobs that were nearly impossible to do because of the extreme quantity of internal email you needed to read. (It isn't so much "the guy who reads the most email won't be fired" it's more like "the guy who reads the most email should really get the hell out of there.")
Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 16 Jan 03 18:31
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Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 16 Jan 03 19:21
It's the guy who SENDS the most email that gets fired!
Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 16 Jan 03 19:29
Tomorrow is the last *official* day for this interview, but of course everybody's welcome to hang out here until 2012 or the end of history, whichever comes first. Meanwhile everybody should drop by here and jam tomorrow, we'll party like it's 1999.
Martha Soukup (soukup) Thu 16 Jan 03 20:59
E-mail from Tom Georgoulias: Or someone will just paypal their whole family's whuffie to buy it, then put copies of Cory's soul on a P2P net to try and get their whuffie back up. I read that Bruce will be at BookPeople in Austin, TX on Tuesday, Jan 21st, at 7:00PM. Is that the end of the book tour?
Bruce Sterling (bruces) Fri 17 Jan 03 07:01
Now back home. Whew. After three days of ceaseless ranting and charisma hemorrhage, I am pitifully hoarse and afflicted with a bad cold. I probably got it off that cellphone I borrowed. They SPREAD GERMS you know. The microwaves COOK YOUR BRAIN AND YOUR EYEBALLS, too. My, am I ever feeling my futurist 21st-century age today. I'm gray haired and middle-aged and feeble and so, so respectable. I'll just be tottering along now, tomorrow-now trending rapidly toward yesterday-then. Somewhere, a nice chrome and matte-black cyber-walker awaits me. Charles Stross and Cory Doctorow are here. You must listen to these younger folk, ladies and gentlemen. They've got a lot on their minds. Adios.
Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 17 Jan 03 10:48
It's like Massumi says, "Yearning is a tendency without end; it is unexpiring, unself-consuming. It is a supplementarity of paradoxical movements, a kind of excess that is neither being nor surplus-value, an excess that can neither be identified or calculated, even fleetingly, let alone purchased or accumulated--that can be only embodied. Becoming is virtuality detached from the universality of capitalized specification and returned to the body as local site of global deviation. It is the exemplary incarnation of singularizing excess. Becoming is the temporality of the future-past woven into a de-ontology of the unworkable: the pragmatics of postcapitalist affectivity." And Burroughs: "Cry of newborn baby gurgles into death rattle and the crystal skull. THAT IS WHAT YOU GET FOR FUCKING." Adios!
Berliner (captward) Fri 17 Jan 03 11:01
Elvis has left the building.
Grant Barnes (pyrus-malus) Fri 17 Jan 03 11:48
re: 108: ??
Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 17 Jan 03 16:03
Heh. Pomo detritus.
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