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permalink #126 of 146: William H. Dailey (whdailey) Thu 27 Nov 03 17:30
    
It mostly comes from the internet, not radio.  

See "Occult Ether Physics: Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System and
the Conspiracy to Conceal It" by William Lyne.  You can find it on
amazon.com. Also see:

Http://www.tilleyfoundation.com

Here is an application nick named "battery popping."

They use a different form of "energy from the vacuum" to power their
factory.  The great engineer Tesla modified his Pierce Arrow with
another form of "energy from the vacuum" and drove it around.  He was
made an offer he couldn't refuse though and dropped it.

http://www.jeffotto.com

Here is another application of the "new" science.  His plan is to
install his power plant in your house for free.  He will make his
profit from the extra energy left over that goes to the power grid.
Please sign up.

http://www.cheniere.org

Some theory behind the "new" science explained by LTC. Tom Bearden
(retired).

http://www.genesisworldenergy.org

http://www.worldenergymanagement.com

These last are the energy baron's reply to the threat of free energy. 
A while back I saw in the paper (S.F. Chronicle), where an official of
Royal Dutch Shell was saying that Hydrogen was the fuel of the future.
 I wondered about that.  Later there was an article where it was said
they would apply to our government to recompense them for the cost of
their research.   Later still, it was said they expected our government
to pay for the development of factories to churn out their devices. 
They will be using a catalyst to get get Hydrogen, Oxygen, and
Electricity from water.  Some time in the past they suppressed and
stole the catalyst from an inventor so they should go to jail.  We do
see where our auto makers are gearing up to produce cars that run on
Hydrogen.  The catalyst method is not "new" science.  I expect they are
nailing down control of existing oil fields so they won't have any
competition.
  
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permalink #127 of 146: Brian Slesinsky (bslesins) Thu 27 Nov 03 21:51
    
There is some incredible stuff out there on the Internet.  You can
find anything you like if you look hard enough.
  
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permalink #128 of 146: David Kline (dkline) Fri 28 Nov 03 08:51
    
That's the beauty of the Net. You used to have to work hard to back up 
your insupportable views with printed "research." Now it's much easier. 
  
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permalink #129 of 146: Mitsuharu Hadeishi (mitsu) Sat 29 Nov 03 10:42
    
The Russian KGB has weapons powerful enough to split the earth?  "Well, if
WE can't rule the earth, then NO ONE can have it!"  They also must have a
time machine, since the KGB doesn't exist anymore.
  
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permalink #130 of 146: Dan Mitchell (mitchell) Sat 29 Nov 03 14:43
    
God hates fags. It must be true: I read it on the Internet.
  
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permalink #131 of 146: Gail Williams (gail) Sat 29 Nov 03 19:07
    
True, you still have to evaluate references, as ever.
  
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permalink #132 of 146: William H. Dailey (whdailey) Sat 29 Nov 03 19:50
    
Teruo Kawai "Motive Power Gererating Device"  Hitachi engineers
confirmed this free energy device.  See his U.S. patent #5,436,518. 
Other japanese inventors have developed free energy devices.  In Japan
it is the yakusa who are suppressing the use of these devices.  Are
they being paid by the Oil interests?
  
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permalink #133 of 146: David Kline (dkline) Sun 30 Nov 03 09:16
    
I don't know what you think a "free energy" devivce is, but Teruo Kawai's
actual stated description of Patent #5436518 describes a rather simple
magnetic device that most certainly does NOT create "free" energy:

"A motive power generating device comprises a permanent magnet disposed
around a rotational output shaft for rotation therewith, the output shaft
being mounted on a support member for rotation, a magnetic body disposed
in concentric relationship with the permanent magnet for rotation with the
rotational output shaft, the magnetic body being subjected to magnetic
flux generated by the permanent magnet, a plurality of electromagnets
fixedly mounted to the support member in such a manner that they are
spaced at predetermined distances around the periphery of the magnetic
body, each magnetic circuit of the electromagnets being adapted to be
independent of one another, and excitation change-over means for the
electromagnets, the excitation change-over means being adapted to
sequentially magnetize one of the electromagnets which is positioned
forwardly with regard to a rotational direction of the rotational output
shaft, so as to impart to the particular electromagnet a magnetic polarity
opposite to that of the magnetic pole of the permanent magnet, whereby
magnetic flux passing through the magnetic body converges in one direction
so as to apply a rotational torque to the rotational output shaft. No
force opposing movement of a rotor or movable element is generated."

This patent is merely an incremental improvement in a long line of 26
previous patented inventions (cited by Teruo Kawai as "prior art") going
back more than 35 years. The first prior art cited by Teruo Kawai as the
basis for his own work was USPTO #3,344,325, granted September 26, 1967,
to M. Sklaroff, for a "Step Motor including permannent magnet rotor."

Hardly the stuff of science fiction, I'm afraid.
  
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permalink #134 of 146: Berliner (captward) Sun 30 Nov 03 09:17
    
This was a fine discussion for a while, though. 
  
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permalink #135 of 146: David Kline (dkline) Sun 30 Nov 03 09:17
    
But hey, why deal with facts when DARK CONSPIRACIES can be imagined?
  
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permalink #136 of 146: David Kline (dkline) Sun 30 Nov 03 09:18
    
Yes it was.
  
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permalink #137 of 146: Berliner (captward) Sun 30 Nov 03 09:28
    
Who needs DARK CONSPIRACIES when there are so many real ones afoot? 
  
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permalink #138 of 146: Jacques Delaguerre http://www.delaguerre.com/delaguerre/ (jax) Sun 30 Nov 03 10:19
    
Who needs conspiracies at all when human nature and interests dictate
that groups will behave in a certain fashion whether or not they can
act in concert or not? E.g., Halliburton would still be trying to rob
the United States Treasury whether Cheney were veep or no.
  
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permalink #139 of 146: Martha Soukup (soukup) Sun 30 Nov 03 10:33
    
Just a lot easier with Cheney in office.
  
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permalink #140 of 146: Berliner (captward) Sun 30 Nov 03 10:34
    
<jax> nails my meaning.
  
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permalink #141 of 146: William H. Dailey (whdailey) Sun 30 Nov 03 15:43
    
We are not talking about fiction.  We are talking about physical fact.
 This level of science goes back beyond the beginning of the last
century to Maxwell's equations.  After his death, other scientists cut
the number of his original equations from twenty down to four, not
understanding what they were doing.  So we lost the ability calculate
and control gravity, momentum, time, desease, and a few other things
including taking free electricity out of the active vacuum.  Tom
bearden calls it the "Active Vacuum," Some have called it "Zero Point,"
 Tesla called it "Radiant Energy," and the people of Maxwells' time
called it "the Aether."

Our Federal Reserve, a private central bank owned by the banking
cartel has been draining our nation's wealth.  I didn't know until
recently they have also been suppressing useful and interesting
inventions.  See "The Creature from Jekyll Island" by G. Edward
Griffin.  You can find it in Amazon.com or bn.com (Barnes and Noble) if
not in your public library.
  
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permalink #142 of 146: tambourine verde (barb-albq) Mon 1 Dec 03 08:43
    
Why is this being discussed in this topic? Does it have some profound
connection, ethereal as it may be, to Iraq and the war?

Meanwhile, many Iraqis' hearts and minds are definitely not being won:

>U.S. troops face a difficult task in trying to root out the violent
insurgents who want to drive them out of Iraq. But in pursuing this
deadly enemy, the Americans are frequently guilty of excesses that are
turning ordinary Iraqis into foes. Bush's Thanksgiving visit meant
little to Iraqis, who cite three areas of concern: the killing of
innocents, the "disappearance" of countrymen detained by U.S. forces,
and the destruction of buildings, including family homes. The last
tactic, justified by U.S. commanders as legitimate demolition of
military targets, is criticized by human-rights groups like Amnesty
International as smacking of collective punishment. As U.S. forces
employ more aggressive tactics to take on the resistance, these
grievances are only getting worse, setting back the effort to win over
local hearts and minds. "Before the Americans came, we heard a lot
about their respect for human rights," says Khalid Mustafa Akbar, at a
mourning tent for his three brothers who were shot dead while driving
their pickup by a U.S. patrol outside Tikrit last week. "But then we
found it is only talk."<

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101031208-552124-1,00.html
  
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permalink #143 of 146: David Kline (dkline) Mon 1 Dec 03 09:05
    
No, we're not winning hearts and minds. 

It may be that only the shiites can save this situation.
  
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permalink #144 of 146: Jacques Delaguerre http://www.delaguerre.com/delaguerre/ (jax) Mon 1 Dec 03 09:06
    
hoo boy.
  
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permalink #145 of 146: Berliner (captward) Mon 1 Dec 03 09:59
    
A somewhat more ambiguous look at it via the Times in this morning's
IHT: 

(http://www.iht.com/articles/119691.html)

My take on it was that neither side really has a Big Picture on what's
going on. We have the capability to define it, but as usual, we're
looking after our own asses and being a bit too aggressive. 
  
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permalink #146 of 146: tambourine verde (barb-albq) Mon 1 Dec 03 10:02
    
Yeah, I saw Burns on Charlie Rose discuss many of the same things he
brings up in this article. Nuanced and complex, to say the least. I
wonder if there really is a big picture, or just conflicting and
confusing chaos growing by the minute, even within the Iraq people's
psyches.
  



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