Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Wed 30 Jun 04 07:45
Peter Coyote, actor, writer, says, "Like all good humorists, Francesca De Grandis has a radical and subversive agenda ..." Francesca is a traditional spiritual healer who gives folks tools to both fulfill their dreams and make a difference in the world. She teaches through international teleseminars (classes by telephone) and provides psychic counseling by telephone for people all over the world. August 2004, she will transplant from San Francisco to Meadville, PA and continue her work surrounded by trees. Francesca is the author of "The Modern Goddess' Guide to Life" (Sourcebooks), "Goddess Initiation" (HarperSanFrancisco), and "Be a Goddess!" (HarperSanFrancisco). Contact her via her website at http://www.well.com/user/zthirdrd/WiccanMiscellany.html or call 415-750-1205. Leading the conversation with Francesca is David Finacom, AKA <keta>. David has been on the WELL since 1990. He often calls himself Rip Van Winkle however, because he only logged on once or twice between about 1995 and 2001, which is a good few decades in Internet Years. Having worked on a Whole Earth Catalog (Essential), led a crew in a salmon cannery, run a small business, studied Political Theory, sold jewelry off a blanket at Dead shows, and written three (mercifully unavailable) socio-political satires, he is currently a bureaucrat and mystic. Welcome, Francesca and David!
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Wed 30 Jun 04 13:05
Thanks Cynthia, and welcome back to the WELL Francesca! Since most of our readers don't have your book (yet), I want to start off by describing the cover. It's pink. There's a drawing of a pink princess goddess holding a sparkly wand and looking straight at you. Maybe she looks a little like Jeannie from the TV show I Dream of Jeannie. The title is below her (on pink): the modern goddess' guide to life. And it looks like she's saying, "how to be absolutely divine on a daily basis." Bear with me - there's a question coming here... So yesterday, I go into City Lights Bookstore in San Francisco, thinking I'll buy a second copy of the book to give to a friend. I hold up my pink book, and ask, "Where will I find this?" The woman behind the counter takes one look at all that pink and SELF HELP, and says, "Oh, we don't carry anything like THAT here!" "But it has a radical and subversive agenda and Peter Coyote endorses it," I don't say, substituting, "Thank you" instead. So Francesca, what were you thinking? Who did you write this book for? Who do you hope reads it? So, Francesca, what were you thinking???
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Wed 30 Jun 04 13:06
There's an echo in here. You can ignore that second "What were you thinking?" unless you have two answers...
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Wed 30 Jun 04 16:50
Hi, Cynthia, David, I am so excited about being back. Dave, your question deserves two answers. I mean, what WAS I thinking? There is a difference between being radical n' subversive and trying to appear as such. A friend once said to me "I would rather be a wolf in sheep's clothing than a sheep in wolf's clothing" and I never forgot that. Writing a humor book is an opportunity to do more than preach to the choir. The book's pink n' pretty n' girl and you can give it to guests at your wedding shower. It's a book of games and quizzes that you can play AT the wedding shower. (This is the point where someone interjects "But marriage is patriarchial!" Well, that's only true sometimes and if you DO want to change the institution of marriage, you can't if you won't talk to people at wedding showers.) Answer #2: I like pink. Answer #3 b/c I'm on a roll here: I usually write serious spiritual books in hopes of supporting folks to enjoy life, be more empowered, and effectively serve community. But fun 'n humor have to be part of that process. Without that playfulness, the end result is not much fun. After all, the means is the ends. So I also wrote the book for myself and folks like me who work hard to make a difference and need some radical fun now n' then to keep inspired.
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Wed 30 Jun 04 16:53
Oops. In case it's not clear, I don't want folks confused: the book is a self-help humor book.
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Thu 1 Jul 04 10:19
Yes it is (although something about that phrase makes me giggle). And, really, it belongs on supermarket book racks, at wedding showers, as much as anywhere. These modern goddesses aren't liberal or conservative, rich or poor, religious or not. It's fun to see goddesses everywhere, not defined or separated by divisions we commonly cultivate or assume. And I like too how it's a participatory book - it's meant to be played and shared as much as read.
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Thu 1 Jul 04 10:33
Today I thought we'd introduce the Modern Goddesses. Bit of a welcoming drum roll please... ...entering from all directions, we have... Mother Goddess Girlfriend Goddess Goddess of Love Activist Goddess Bad Girl Goddess Princess Goddess Goddess-Just-Wants-To-Have-Fun Corporate Goddess Sex Goddess Out-To-Change-The-World Goddess Trickster Goddess Goddess of Wrath and Unintentional Destruction The Ultimate Goddess So how did you pick these particular ones, or how did they pick you? Care to introduce us to one or two?
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Thu 1 Jul 04 11:48
Thank you for your kind words about the "The Modern Goddess' Guide to Life". I was casting a wide net when I wrote it but I do realize that most readers will be liberal to radical left. Like I said above, we need our fun to keep at our liberal/radical agendas. Nevertheless, as a feminist, mystic, and healer, preaching to the choir alone isn't right for me. I spent too many years in my youth thinking I was changing the world but never engaging in it! Although, as I say in "The Modern Goddess' Guide to Life", every Goddess has her own piece of "The Work" she needs to address, and that choir needs a feminist, mystic, and healer who preaches solely to them. So I am not equating preaching to the choir with non-engagement. I'm saying that it took a long time before I realized that for ME being engaged meant stepping out into different territory. Moving on: I made the Goddesses up. Or they made themselves up. They came to me. Then I tweaked and tweaked each one, as well as added a few, trying to portray modern women a bit. Mother Goddess: Think your mom! Or the community take-care-of-everyone woman. Bad Girl Goddess: enviable trouble! Lives life to suit herself. David Goddess: virile man which means he's got a feminine side.
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Thu 1 Jul 04 17:15
Wait a minute. That last one isn't in the book. But, you know, I was translating some as I read - Father God, Bad Boy God...
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Fri 2 Jul 04 07:52
>I'm saying that it took a long time before I realized that for ME being engaged meant stepping out into different territory. So, for you, this book is stepping out into different territory? I disagree with you somewhat that most of your readers will be liberal to radical left - as I think about who I know who most exemplifies each of these modern goddesses, they're all over the spectrum. Maybe readers and exemplars are two different things, but why do they have to be? You mention in your intro that the term "goddess" is mainstream now. Won't your book help people on supposedly different sides (of anything) reach across and connect with each other?
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Fri 2 Jul 04 11:45
Re new territory: What I was talking about above was long ago leaving the safety zone of my youth. First I stopped ranting about the sorry state of the world to friends in my living room and tried to start teaching solutions in my living room. First step into new territory. And it terrified me. I had to overcome a lot internally to be able to offer classes, but that was only the beginning. Ugh. I eventually left the relative safety of those classes to approach the publishing world with what I was teaching. Omigoddess, a whole new level of terror! But every time, it has been worth it. Because lifes a waiting! And its yummy! But, yes, this humor book is yet another new arena after texts that were not only serious religious material but also not so mainstream. Youre right, it is being read by very mainstream folks, and that is what I had hoped for. Which brings me to my above remark about who is reading it: let me try again. Yes, Goddess is a pop culture term now, and the women in the book are all over the spectrum politically and otherwise. So I guess its up for grabs as to who the readers are. From the gate, I tried to write the manuscript in an inclusive manner. Spiritual discussions should include--not exclude--as much as possible. I hoped that any and every women would read the book. Great sales! Kidding aside, I did hope that the book would be read by women from every walk of life, b/c I think theres stuff in there that could help anyone. (I am so modest.) As to your Won't your book help people on supposedly different sides (of anything) reach across and connect with each other? I HOPE SO! Oh, I so want that of the book. The book has a lot of material to help all these wildly disparate types of women get along and create more power for themselves as a result. One of the books themes is to recognize not only your own divinity but also that of everyone else. When we honor the divine in each other, we sure do treat each other better.
Cynthia Dyer-Bennet (cdb) Fri 2 Jul 04 12:14
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Rip Van Winkle (keta) Sat 3 Jul 04 06:31
G'morning all. Well, it's morning in my internet land. Before we go on, let me explain a bit to our arriving readers and participants (welcome!) what we are doing here. For the last couple of days, Francesca, Cynthia, and I have been chatting in "hidden" mode, so there's some There there when this interview is launched into the world. Now, we're "live", and the Inkwell Spotlight is going to be on us for two weeks. If you are coming in from anywhere on the internet except the WELL, you post indirectly - like Cynthia said, you email firstname.lastname@example.org and a kindly host posts what you want to say within a few hours. If you're on the WELL, well, you know what to do. Francesca, due to her schedule, comes on Exactly Once Per Day. I, who will be rambling and roving, show up whenever I can find an internet cafe or talk a willing friend or stranger into letting me on their computer. You, who are the reason why we are here doing this, show up whenever, and feel free to chat amongst yourselves. The rule here is equality. So, now that we're launched, somebody say something. Somebody crack a bottle of conversational champaign across the bow of this thing!
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Sat 3 Jul 04 12:37
Okay, will do. Ahem: here is my one per day. (Any more and this would be a treatise. I am, if nothing else, wordy.) Smash (<--the sound of a champagne bottle breaking across the bow of my computer. Okay, a fine mess this is now. I have to wipe all this up. Great idea, Dave!) Dave is being kindly discreet for me when he says the one a day is due to my schedule. I am disabled. So computer use is a challenge for me. (Dont anyone send me a million suggestions for computer aids for the disabled. I know them.) Someone just lent me a Nirvana video b/c Ive never (blush) heard their music; here is this icon that I, in my little shaman shack, never heard. (Yes, I am that out of it! I am off in my own world. Dont leave the house much. Just write, teach and counsel there. And now, with the disability, cant really leave anyway. No sob story in that. I like my life and am a semi-recluse anyway.) I wanted to know about Cobain b/c of all Ive heard and read. And it got me thinking about media exposure in relation to our conversation about subversion. I used to think that people who managed to publish their books made megabucks, were in it for the money, and werent as deep as those who had no ambition for media exposure. Found out that: most of the books you see in stores are written by people with day jobs; unless youre Stephen King, youre lucky if you break even on a book; and youre nuts to do all it takes to get published. So my unpublished me am better that you, you shallow famous author thing got turned on its head, and now, of course, I get nasty, intrusive letters and hear gossip about me all based on my old erroneous presumptions aka now that Ive been in the New York Times and Cosmopolitan, I must not know the real score anymore. (I am going somewhere with this, bear with me.) One of my favorite poets, Lew Welch, was an outsider even in the far out Beat movement that he was such a prominent figure in. One day he walked into the woods and was never heard of again. Some say suicide. Maybe not: maybe he just wanted invisibility. A friend of mine still watches for Lews face to appear, disguised, at poetry gatherings. Im about to move to the middle of nowhere myself, onto a piece of land where someone I know hunts deer with a bow and arrow. This is in a Pennsylvania blue collar farming community that is economically depressed and b/c it is northwestern PA it is nowhere NEAR NY or Boston. One friend said that where I am going is just someplace she flies over going from L.A. to N.Y. That is so not true. If you are true to yourself, then wherever you ARE is the scene, where it is happening. For some people involved in community work, there is this tension, this constant dialectic, between wanting to get away to quietly embody the life you are trying to help make for everyone, and this need to stay engaged, whatever the cost, to create that world. In my soon-to-be home, in the middle of nowhere, I can still write, and I do all my counseling and teaching by phone anyway. (I teach teleseminarsclasses by phone. And counsel folks by phone all the over the world.) Hmm, I guess the most extreme form of this is the bodhisattvaI hope I am using the right termpeople who have reached enlightenment yet reincarnate anyway just to help the rest of us poor saps along. But for we who are not bodhisattvas, we have to face it on our own level. Lew talked about this, so did Henry Miller now that I think of I. Somewhere Miller wrote that we should not preach but demonstrate, otherwise we are totally sacrificed. That was his solution. But there is no simple answer. It is a constant evaluation of my moment-to-moment life: how do I serve community yet not go nuts, become seriously ill, etc? This is not just theoretical for me. In fact, I am already ill. My dr. doesnt want me working b/c of my health. He said that most folks with what Ive got going on climb into bed, get on disability, and never get back out. I am not trying to sound pathetic and brave--I dont want to be a poster child for disabled people, b/c with all my whining I would be a lousy one--I am just trying to express how very real this question is for me, and show the particular way the realness express itself in my own life. Everyone has a different way it expresses. I just thought of another place I've seen this theme discussed: In the book of Lord of the Rings, at the end Frodo leaves the shire saying that saving the wonderful Shire life for the Hobbits meant that he had to sacrifice it himself. I sobbed when I read that. Sacrifice is a reality for activists, healers, and other community workers. But how far do you go?
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Sat 3 Jul 04 19:49
"Begin where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can." --Luisah Tiesh Here I am. On the road. Getting on a computer did involve patience, good manners, and strangers. Thinking of a children's book called Toot and Puddle, about two pigs, one who travels and one who stays at home, and both who see the world. Something I wonder tonight. We're "supposed" to be talking about a humor book here, and were talking about bravery and sadness and sacrifice. And yet it feels right. Do you think that the path to humor leads through sadness? Or what is the relation? We're in a desolate time as a country too. Is someone somewhere suddenly going to break out laughing one day and we'll all start joining in, and something will start to get better?
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Sun 4 Jul 04 11:03
I have not read the book but from your description Toot n' Puddle seem a perfect example of the premise that wherever YOU are is where its happening. And I think your questions answer themselves. All I need to add is that, after 9/11, I decided to a) keep focusing on service b) wear more pink (it keeps my spirits up and is a sort of psychic protection for me personally, bland as pink may SEEM spiritually) c) write a humor book.
Jordan Brown (khadirgreen) Sun 4 Jul 04 19:39
Dear Francesca, merry meet. May the peace of the Goddess be ever in your heart. I'm Sicilian too, named for Giordano Bruno, and was forever intrigued by something I read a guidebook to Sicily when I was a boy. The first thing it said about the prehistory of Sicilian culture was that the Goddess was supreme for the ancient Sicilians. That statement has haunted me ever since, and now that I've become a Goddess person I have hoped to reconnect our ancient Sicilian Goddess heritage with the present. I think of the very old Goddess sites built underground in Malta, and like to speculate that the prehistoric Goddess people in Sicily shared the same religion as in Malta. My sister gave birth to a stillborn daughter and named her Persephone. By this she paid homage to the best-known Goddess myth of Sicily, a story which I think is extremely old and probably predates the Greeks. I look forward to reading your other books, and hope to find out if there are any survivals of ancient Goddess lore in stregheria that you could tell us about. As for the color pink, it makes me think of Code Pink, the most vibrant and energetic feminist movement currently active in America, inspiring and giving me hope; I think of Code Pink as energizing in the political sphere the feminist ideals stimulated by Goddess religion. So I agree with you that pink is a great color for us. Even for guys like me.
From GENTLEOAK (tnf) Mon 5 Jul 04 07:16
GentleOak writes: this is an interesting forum. does one have to pay the 15 a month to continue to post is this a tease? being disabled and on ssd broke i must choose carefully how I spend those pennys. Yes I too have a disability that I crawled into bed and gave up. One of those Goddesses pluncked me down on a piece of land called annwfn for 3 days I slept on the earth and somewhere I found the life force to get up and get going. Certianly I am transformed but it is not always an easy path this spirit walk. It demands of me total honesty and commitment to the things I have chosen as important and sometimes being willing to grab hold of new things like walking again, literally, On my wedding day I walked substancially for the first time in 7 yrs. Today I grieve my rage and anger roll though me like a summer storm in Iowa yet the whole of my comments above are part and parcel of walking in spirit. Right now today it hurts cant always live at annwfn or at my wedding day those moments I hang onto for hope but life is in this moment. I rage
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Mon 5 Jul 04 09:32
Jordan, I am so sorry to hear about your sisters loss. Being a mother and spiritual counselor to mothers, I know that the loss of a child is something a mother never really gets past. As to Italian witchery, check out Aradia by Leland. Best source! When I first heard of Code Pink I cracked up. So many people are turning to that color right now, whether its for spirituality, politics, or fashion! Gentle Oak, far as I know, no $15 fee to keep posting. But I dont work for inkwell.vue so am not the authority on this. Thank you so much for sharing about your physical challenges. I want to address our disabilities. (I hate it when people pretend that disabilities are not part of life, on a daily basis.) But then I need to move past it as a topic in this conversation. I think it was Helen Keller who said that she hated that to many people her story stopped once she learned to talk and that what was important was what she had to say once she COULD talk. With that, heres my two cents. I truly understand about it taking so long to walk. I cant remember but it was an outrageous amount of time before I could sit. 1 & ½ years? In the meantime, I lay there and dictated words to get my humor book written. Actually, I wasnt supposed to even be talking much. Too debilitated. I push way past what I should. Its nuts, often very painful, but you laff or go down! Ive learned that, at least for me, I have to keep going no matter what. At least for me, there is no point, otherwise. And I knew if I got on SSI or something--this is just for me, not others--I would stop and stop forever. This latest round--these past 2 & ½ years of being really crippled--taught me so much, gave me so much. Its made me finally go for my dream of rural living. I too will be able to lie on the ground--every day--and let Gaia love me into peace. No matter the cost, I have to go for my dreams. Being disabled since childhood has taught me that. And the challenges I meet? Theyre jumping off points for jokes. Having said that, I repeat, I dont want my work and life being about disabilities but about what we manage to do despite them. Besides, as said above, I would make a lousy poster child for disabled folks. So I need to move on to other topics. Of course, I dont want to tell anyone what to do. And its important to talk about this stuff, sometimes for hours and hours. So of course you talk about whatever you want, for as much as you want. But right now I need my focus elsewhere. So Im onto other topics. Oh, except to say: Gentle Oak, I commend you for using physical challenges to walk the spirit path!!
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Mon 5 Jul 04 09:59
Welcome Jordan and Gentleoak. I only have 5 minutes on this computer right now, so i will print your posts and read in a bit. Responding to Francesca's comment about Lew Welch - the examples range all the way from Spalding Grey (walked into the East River) to King Arthur (hanging out in Avalon). I think of Jung commenting (roughly) that the more you understand a symbol/archytype you are living, the less you have to carry its implications to literal physical conclusions. Are these goddesses archytypes in jungs sense? how does understanding them help one to avoid the grim literal fate? And/but aren't they also all about GETTING TO physical conclusions, getting embodied, not being so abstract? hope to see you all this evening - the computer owner is hovering...carry on!
evil little honey (izzie) Mon 5 Jul 04 19:31
hi, I'm izzie, and I was away when this conversation started but Hello!!! and a very warm and loving hello to Francesca - a goddess on the earth, for sure. We need to chat, sweet, about where you are living now! Are you near my little favorite town in the woods?? Francesca, I loved the book! I was howling through parts of it,a nd am so glad it came to fruition. I liked how your Goddesses are soreal - we can all, I think, find at least most of ourselves in one of those descriptions. I'm back now, with access to a computer and time to use it, so I'll be a more active participant here... thanks, keta, for heading it up!
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Mon 5 Jul 04 20:11
Jordan, thanks for pointing out code pink. That was a connexion that had not occurred to me - shows how we need many people to see one thing. You're right about how it's energizing the political sphere with feminist ideals stimulated by goddess religion. I know this isn't what you mean when you ask of survivals of ancient lore, and of course I'm not the one qualified to answer, but often to me, I see survivals in current blossomings. So, putting Code Pink and ancient Sicily together in the same post, I start to wonder how code pink is perhaps a straight-up blossoming of ancient lore in itself. Does that make sense? Old knowledge is not always lost simply because it is hidden, or transformed. (There is a story of a species of butterfly in the Black Forest of Germany. When industrialization started to really turn the forest black, the butterflies turned black too - and survived.) And the corn I plant this year is a blossoming of all the corn back to mesoamerican prehistory. GentleOak, If you join the WELL, which is a fee-based online community, you do pay $15 a month (or less under some plans i think) what you get is a bunch of discussion "conferences" that are sheltered from the WEB - i.e. your posts can't be scanned by google and show up as search results. They can be read by anyone else who is part of the WELL. For some special topics there are even "private" conferences that can only be read by their members. The conferences vary in their activity. Some are wonderfully congenial, others are free-for-alls, and others are verrrrrrrrry sloooooow. Cynthia, help us out here with the official answer. Inkwell isn't so much a tease as it is a place where the WELL and the Net meet. Everything in here stays available, and you can participate for free as much as you want. But the guests do usually go away after two weeks. unless they're already on the WELL, or are Neil Gaiman! Francesca, One thing I would be interested in hearing more about is the distinction you make between the Activist Goddess and the Out To Change The World Goddess. They sound like the same thing, but as you talk about them, and make serious/playful fun of them, they're actually very different. Or, of course, we could just segue right into talking about fashion. Or sex. Or tricksters.
Rip Van Winkle (keta) Mon 5 Jul 04 20:15
<izzie> slipped - hi! Yes, <izzie> another obvious thing that I just kinda missed registering - they are so real. Not to say that they aren't also caricatures.
the Conoisseurship of Stonation (bratwood) Tue 6 Jul 04 08:34
Hi Francesca, thanks for the book! I just returned from a trip to Vermillion, South Dakota for a printmaking workshop. It was an awesome gathering of creative forces smack dab in the middle of corn country. Who could have imagined so much energy and brilliance in a place so far removed from San Francisco or New York? Well, I think the place was a key ingredient. And I think your move to Pennsylvania is going to be a revitalizing force for you. Something about the air quality, or the pace, or the lack of pressure and pretense. If I say the wrong thing here, please remember I come under the Trickster Goddess heading. I appreciate this new definition as I've been clinging to my old Fallen Goddess image for a few years now. I think I'll need to create a new woodcut for the Trickster, since images have powerful transforming magic.
from PENNY (tnf) Tue 6 Jul 04 08:52
Penny writes: First, Thank You 'Rip Van Winkle' for creating this bridge to link us to one of the most prolific Bards of our time- Francesca De Grandis! Haven't yet read the new book; I began a third cycle of your first two teachings (Be a Goddess, and Goddess Initiation)---decided I needed to go a little deeper, and the core teachings of your methods never let me down. But will definately pick up a copy of your new 'child' in the near future. I emailed you this past March but never followed up with our phone conversation- hope your move is transitioning as smoothly as possible. While reading the messages posted thus far, I was drawn to the topic of the color pink. It occurred to me that it is 'humor' that leads THROUGH the path of sadness. Pink will help you along the way. It is such a light and tender color, (such as the 'pink onsie' I put on my 7 month old daughter this morning). Helps one to tread lightly through the darkness and react in tenderness, especially to one's SELF, which leads to the wisdom of compassion and great strength. Funny how such a light 'airy' color can have such a powerful punch! It is a much greater medicine than most people realize. Much like butterfly medicine. I've been working lately to figure an idea on how to heal the split community I live in right now- not only am I smack in the middle of the bible belt, (which pits christians aganist pagans unnecessarily) but we seem to have a large split within our pagan community here as well. (Witch wars--honestly!) I, myself straddle the line between both. Perhaps 'pink' is the seed I need to try to germinate. I'll check in to this forum later~ the kiddies are calling! Namaste~ Penny
Francesca De Grandis (zthirdrd) Tue 6 Jul 04 09:15
Thanks, Dave. Glad to have it confirmed that anyone could post without paying any bucks. I love Jungian material. But I could never be a Jungian. Neither could Jung. So I hear. I hear he refused to create a Jungian method because he wanted folks to not duplicate his methods but do what he had done. But when told that if he didnt codify his methods someone else would, he created his school of Jungian psychology. I dont know if all this is true. I digress. Dave, as always, I love your questions. (Dave and I met in a Well interview.) Dave said Are these goddesses archytypes in jungs sense? how does understanding them help one to avoid the grim literal fate? And/but aren't they also all about GETTING TO physical conclusions, getting embodied, not being so abstract? Umm, the book is not meant to help women avoid being Goddesses. (Dave, I know you didnt mean that but I couldnt resist.) I was instead trying to celebrate--albeit in a wacky way--the power of womanhood, the fact that women ARE truly thoroughly and without a doubt modern Goddesses. Whats more real than a Goddess of Love or Sex Goddess? From there it only made sense to start extrapolating and create Activist Goddess, Bad Girl Goddess, Goddess-Just-Wants-To-Have-Fun, and so on. But like I said, I didnt really make them up. They made themselves up via my pen. On the other hand, the book does show both the up and down side of each Goddess type so that women can avoid/minimize/figure-out-how-to-otherwise-deal-with their negative traits. Hi, Izzie-goddess. Arent you sweet! Im so happy the book made you laff so much, I am so happy. I never share my books before theyre published except with my editor and the like. But one of my motivations in writing the book was to have more fun. So I made the time to have that fun. It was actually a spiritual commitment. I would write a few pages then call up a girlfriend and wed roll on floor. Now I think of it, sometimes Id call up a guy and we chortled, instead. Keta, Dont you be saying, I'm not the one qualified to answer. Blah on that. Anyone is qualified as long as they are being thoughtful and coming from the heart instead of being motivated by pomposity or the desire to control others. Keta asked I would be interested in hearing more about is the distinction you make between the Activist Goddess and the Out To Change The World Goddess. When I wrote the book I realized that if you say activist most folks think political action. So I wanted a second Goddess--the Out To Change The World Goddess--who represented women who make a difference in a non-political modality: the woman who raises funds for a homeless shelter instead of for a political candidate who will create that shelter. The woman whose home is used to collect clothing for that shelter. I made up different types of Out To Change The World Goddesses, then, umm, made fun of them. I make fun of everything in that book. BTW, I think that everyone who can should engage politically at some levelvote, write letters to congresspeople, try to stay informed, add political considerations to their career decisions and purchase choices. Oops, in the hour it took to write the above, more posts happened. I'll print them and respond tomorrow. HIya!!!!!
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