The WELL: inkwell.vue.252: JD Lasica "Darknet"

#95: Emily J. Gertz (emilyg) Mon 29 Aug 05 01:02

Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:02:00 PDT

Thanks jon and jd, for the excellent interview. [Read entire topic]

#94: JD Lasica (jd) Sun 28 Aug 05 01:47

Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:47:00 PDT

Always an honor to engage in an elevated discourse with members of the WELL.

Yes, let's continue the conversation, on the WELL and Darknet.com, by contributing your own works to citizens media sites like Ourmedia.org, Flickr.com and NowPublic.com, and by supporting groups fighting the good fight, like PublicKnowledge.org and EFF.org! [Read entire topic]

#93: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Fri 26 Aug 05 15:26

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:26:00 PDT

thanks (jonl) for your excellent moderation and (jd) for a great look at an some important issues facing the digital world. [Read entire topic]

#92: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Fri 26 Aug 05 13:28

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:28:00 PDT

Thanks, Hal, and thanks to JD and everyone who joined the conversation! [Read entire topic]

#91: Gail Williams (gail) Fri 26 Aug 05 11:59

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:59:00 PDT

Fascinating stuff. Thanks! [Read entire topic]

#90: Hal Royaltey (hal) Fri 26 Aug 05 11:56

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:56:00 PDT

I'll just slip in here to thank JD and Jon for a great interview.

Our two weeks have passed far too quickly. Luckily the conversation can, in typical WELL style, go on for much longer. Off-WELL posters may continue to submit comments to the hosts (inkwell@well.com) and WELL members may post away.

Thanks again guys! [Read entire topic]

#89: It's a new sun to me (nukem777) Fri 26 Aug 05 07:09

Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:09:00 PDT

Great overview (jd)...something quite basic will be changing as well, the collective consciousness...this new remix, digital post-human generation will not only live within a completely new and assumed technological model, but also a new eidetic (way of knowing) model...a collective consciousness, rather than the traditional model of each individual absorbing and integrating as much or as little knowledge as possible...info will be readily available, easily searchable - by bot! -and as easily shared; collaboration and an assumed global connectivity will be simply a given. So one big shift will be the individual's intuitive understanding that (s)he is a part a shared consciousness, rather than the more existential situation of the past 200 years or so.

I think that's how it's going to go? This will lead to all sorts of new models regarding learning, vocation, social organization, etc. We are already seeing it in the new social models like Omidyar and many others. Now that blogs are using RSS feeds and back tracking this borg -like model should develop fairly quickly.

This is more of a sense of what's up, there's no way for us old dogs to really get a handle on it, one, because we just don't think that way, and, two, because as the new post-human generation comes into their own they will define and develop the models as they go, so it's too early to get a fix. [Read entire topic]

#88: JD Lasica (jd) Thu 25 Aug 05 20:23

Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:23:00 PDT

Great question, Jon. I think we're in for a transitional decade immediately ahead, with the digital culture wars heating up for several years before the kids who are growing up with this technology today and internalizing it come into positions of power and influence.

When that happens, it will be a world where ubiquity trumps scarcity, openness wins out over closed proprietary systems, digital content and media are not device-dependent, and content moves fluidly from one manifestation (a handheld device) to another (a 50-foot projection wall). We'll carry around libraries of media with us, on keychains or as fashion accessories. And we'll be able to access media that are not in our personal collections on demand, some of it paid, some of it free.

I like the comment of pho founder Jim Griffin, whom I quote in the book verily:

"The kind of media world our kids grow up in will be so different from our own, but to them, it will just be the natural order of things. They*ll grow up in a world where entertainment and most art and intellectual property will be fluid and friction-free. The idea that a song could be recorded and moved effortlessly over a network or even wirelessly to a cell phone will seem normal. And the idea that this can be stopped*through legislation or a piece of software code or a shrink-wrap contract or a misleading educational campaign*will be preposterous to them.* [Read entire topic]

#87: Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Thu 25 Aug 05 16:52

Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:52:00 PDT

We've talked a lot about the legal and technical implications of digital distribution, but what are the cultural implications? Assuming we "win" and IP is seen more realistically for the digital world we're sloshing around in, what will that world look like, ultimately? [Read entire topic]

#86: JD Lasica (jd) Thu 25 Aug 05 12:34

Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:34:00 PDT

That's welcome (and unexpected) news, nukem, thanks for pointing it out. It will take years, but all the music companies will eventually pursue a similar path. [Read entire topic]