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	    #47: Steve Bjerklie (stevebj) Mon 16 Nov 09 04:09
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        And on it goes...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;November 15, 2009
Forest People May Lose Home in Kenyan Plan
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MARASHONI, Kenya * With the stroke of a pen, the last of Kenya*s honey
hunters may soon be homeless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since time immemorial, the Ogiek have been Kenya*s traditional forest
dwellers. They have stalked antelope with homemade bows, made medicine
from leaves and trapped bees to produce honey, the golden elixir of the
woods. They have struggled to survive the press of modernity, and many
times they have been persecuted, driven from their forests and
belittled as *dorobo,* a word meaning roughly people with no cattle.
Somehow, they have always managed to survive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/world/africa/15kenya.html?th&amp;amp;emc=th
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	    #46: Gail Williams (gail) Wed 2 Sep 09 16:17
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        Anne, Mark and everybody who posted, thank you for sharing your insights and
questions with us here!  The two-week conversation is officially finished,
but feel free to keep this going at whatever speed you want for as long as
you want.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other places to talk about similar issues are the ongoing WELL conferences
on &amp;lt;wildlife.&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;see.&amp;gt; which is a sustainability conference, for those
who wish to add them to your regular rounds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks!
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	    #45: Gail Williams (gail) Tue 1 Sep 09 13:08
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        Wow, Houma is going to be great for food and music during your
research stay! There's another set of advantages to looking at cultural
contexts.  I'm sure you've read the essay on Louisiana in John
McPhee's &amp;quot;Control of Nature,&amp;quot; must-read for lower-Mississippi River
visitors. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And while we're mentioning books, let's be sure to get a link to your
book on your publisher's site in here too:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&amp;amp;tid=11679
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	    #44: Steve Bjerklie (stevebj) Tue 1 Sep 09 11:49
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        Mark, this has been a terrific conversation, and I wish it could go on
as it has for another month or two. In any event, it's been nice, too,
to catch up a bit. Good luck on your next endeavor -- and I wait
anxiously for the published result.
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	    #43: Mark Dowie (markdowie) Tue 1 Sep 09 09:35
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        A lot of great commentary in the last few hours, but not much I really
disagree with or need to respond to. So let me leave off by correcting
an idea I am often accused of harboring. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been accused of opposing the preservation of wilderness. I am
all for wilderness preservation. I supported the 1963 Wilderness Act
when it was passed (at some risk to family relationships)and I still
do. But the sentiment I support in the Act is that of preserving
existing wilderness, roadless areas that remain pristine and, as the
Act says, &amp;quot;untrammeled by man.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also have no problem with the idea of natural restoration --
attempting to return a trammelled area to a relatively untramelled
state. But attempting to turn human-occupied land, particularly land
under cultivation, into wilderness is creating an artiface, a theme
park of wilderness, which of course is exactly what has become of
Yosemite Valley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Ansel Adams was right to resign from the Sierra Club in
protest over construction of the Tioga Road, as that road and all
others like it end forever the potential for true wilderness. As the
reprised Grinnell study recently demonstrated, once you turn wilderness
into park you alter permanently the biological character and diversity
of the local ecosystem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So wilderness to wilderness I am all for. Native land to wilderness is
 artiface. And that's the most polite thing that can be said about
evicting native people from traditional homelands in the interest of
conservation or wilderness preservation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What next? I'm headed down to the Bayous south of New Orleans where
the Houma people have lived and fished since the mid 17th century. Like
so many remote communities around the world the Houma are losing land
and livelihood to chaotic climate changes that are overwhelming the
impressive adaptive mechanisms they have developed over the centuries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I guess you could say I have made a subtle shift in interest from
&amp;quot;Conservation Refugees&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Ecological Refugees.&amp;quot;
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	    #42: Anne Boyd (nitpicker) Tue 1 Sep 09 08:57
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        Mark, we're drawing to a close soon on our discussion here and I want
to thank you once again for participating.  This book opens up a whole
lot of really provocative questions and raises a lot of awareness of
issues that I'm sure many people did not have much information about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My final question to you (once you've struggled with the above!) will
be to ask what your next upcoming project(s) are.  Will you be
researching the issue of conservation refugees further, or are you on
to other topics?
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	    #41: David Gans (tnf) Mon 31 Aug 09 23:15
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        I am very sorry to have been absent form this discussion, friends.  I ran
into a spot of trouble on the road last week and lost severeal days of
reading and work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having been deeply affected by the Yosemite chapter of Mark's wonderful book,
I got in touch with my friend Stu Levy, a photographer (and physician) who
worked closely with Ansel Adams.  I post the following with his permission:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I must confess that I haven't read of lot of Muir's original
writings and I'm not an environmental history expert, but the
historical context he lived in included three hundred years of
removing indigenous people from their land, the deforestation of
much of the Midwest, such as Minnesota, and the engineering
capability of damming Hetch Hetchy. I think that the feared (and
eventual) loss of the actual land forms, coupled with the greed of
resource based industries (timber, mining) made the creation of
sanctuaries of the land a better alternative than their destruction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do remember hearing stories of logging of Yosemite Valley floor
by the native people before white men came. Their use was most
likely sustainable, but they were not blasting huge rock forms out
of existence. I do remember hearing about deforestation in the
Himalayas and the environmental damage that caused.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I've read about Anasazi groups in the Four Corners area a
thousand years ago hypothesized that over-harvesting of the land
used up the water table and perhaps contributed to severe drought
years, the need for migrations and the collapse of their cultures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Re: Ansel - his early photographs were influenced by his
predecessors in Yosemite - Watkins, Muybridge and Fiske, as well as by
painters such as Bierstadt. There were occasionally people in
Ansel's photos of Yosemite, and these can be seen in some of his
early publications, but they were neither his greatest photos nor
the ones that sold. He did produce a book called Michael and Anna
in Yosemite, a photo book of his two children's various adventures
living in Yosemite Valley. Ansel's people pictures tended to be
more formal portraits as opposed to anything resembling spontaneous or
&amp;quot;street&amp;quot; photography. Photos in New Mexico (especially Taos
Pueblo) and Manzanar are the two areas where he photographed daily
activities. In Carmel, there is currently an Ansel show of his
Portraits at the Center for Photographic Arts (closes August 30).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Ansel resigned from the board of the Sierra Club when the
new Tioga Road was built because he didn't like how the land was
being destroyed (again, blasting out rock forms). He did rejoin
later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An analogous failure to preserve land occurred in the late 1950's - early
1960's when the Glen Canyon was flooded by the creation of
Lake Powell and the Glen Canyon Dam as part of political deals
which set aside Dinosaur National Monument in Utah to &amp;quot;satisfy the
conservationists&amp;quot;. Again, resource greed trumped any consideration
of Native Peoples, much less preserving unique land forms filled
with cultural artifacts. A good account of this appears in Cadillac Desert
by Marc Reisner.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's my humble perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope all is well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stu
&amp;lt;http://www.stulevyphoto.com/&amp;gt;
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	    #40: Gail Williams (gail) Mon 31 Aug 09 14:48
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        Yeah, the choices are not binary, that's for sure.
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	    #39: Anne Boyd (nitpicker) Mon 31 Aug 09 13:19
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        Well, I think the idea of nature as separate from man, as Mark points
out throughout the book, stands in the way of real understanding of the
nuances of our relationship with the natural world.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don't face a binary choice between an unspoiled, untouched,
&amp;quot;wilderness&amp;quot; that we can somehow keep under a glass bubble to admire
forever, and a totally cultural artifact called a &amp;quot;garden&amp;quot; or a &amp;quot;city&amp;quot;
that is not inhabited by any authentic nature.  We have, instead, a
whole series of negotiations between culture and nature, which are
taking place in the furthest &amp;quot;wilderness&amp;quot; just as surely as they're
taking place on our street corners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a quote from William Cronon's essay &amp;quot;The Trouble with
Wilderness,&amp;quot; which Mark also quotes in his book.  It comes after a
discussion of a tree in the wilderness and the same tree planted in a
garden, where &amp;quot;both trees stand apart from us; both trees share our
common world&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Our challenge is to stop thinking of such things according to a set
of bipolar moral scales in which the human and the non-human, the
unnatural and the natural, the fallen and the unfallen, serve as our
conceptual map for understanding and valuing the world.  Instead, we
need to embrace the full continuum of a natural landscape that is also
cultural, in which the city, the suburb, the pastoral, and the wild
each has its proper place, which we permit ourselves to celebrate
without needlessly denigrating the others...In particular, we need to
discover a common middle ground in which all of these things, from the
city to the wilderness, can somehow be encompassed in the word 'home.' 
Home, after all...is the place for which we take responsibility, the
place we try to sustain so we can pass on what it best in it (and in
ourselves) to our children.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did a project recently where I studied the natural lore of the
Tongva (Gabrielino) people who originally inhabited the Los Angeles
basin, in an attempt to understand how they related to their landscape
and used its natural resources.  Although members of this tribe still
survive, most of their cultural knowledge was wiped out when their way
of life was obliterated by the Spanish missions; the source material
that survives is pretty thin and vague, written down second-hand by
people who didn't begin to understand the complexity of what they were
being told.  Europeans didn't hesitate, for instance, to apply the
names of plants they knew to the local plants, and so much of the time
you can't even tell what native plant is being discussed in the
documentation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People think of the natural condition of Los Angeles as a barren
desert, inhospitable to life, but it was once rich and abundant and
diverse and supported its human population very well, so well they
never developed agriculture, but had a pretty high population density
for hunter-gatherers.  (Of course many orders of magnitude less than
the population density of today's megalopolis, but still.)  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's heartbreaking to think of the knowledge base that was lost when
the native culture was wiped out; and worth thinking about on a day
like today, when we're all cowering under the massive clouds of another
destructive wildfire ... which, my geographer and natural restoration
specialist friends remind me, is not reflective of our &amp;quot;natural
condition&amp;quot; at all, but of our altered terrain and hydrology, invasive
plants, building patterns, history of fire suppression, etc. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back a few posts ago, Mark quoted an Inuit leader describing a person
who understands and uses both traditional ecological knowledge (TEK)
and Western science as 'strong like two people.' I suppose the epilogue
to Mark's book inspired me to think that traditional ecological
knowledge could be a very powerful contributor, not just to the
preservation of areas that are already biodiverse and functioning well
ecologically, but to the restoration of areas that have been damaged
and degraded.  And that would be across the whole spectrum of
culturally influenced landscapes: in some places, restoring more
'natural' landscapes that have been damaged; in others, reimagining our
suburbs and parks and cities and even our own backyards to play a more
functional role in larger ecological systems.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sure do wish that so much of what the Tongva knew had not been lost.
 Those moving descriptions of traditional ecological knowledge in
Mark's book really made me think about those scarce and vague records
that I looked at so hard, trying to learn what they were really talking
about.  Even paving over the Los Angeles Basin isn't as irrevocable an
act as losing that knowledge.
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	    #38: Gail Williams (gail) Mon 31 Aug 09 12:16
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        Anne, when you posted:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;gt;In my field we have a concept called &amp;quot;regenerative design,&amp;quot;  which is
meant to go beyond mere &amp;quot;sustainability.&amp;quot;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remembered a topic on The WELL way back in the early 90s which was
called something like &amp;quot;Terraforming planet Earth.&amp;quot;  It was a great
phrase, borrowed from science fiction where some harsh far world would
be sculpted, planted and warmed or cooled for human habitation with the
use of bacteria, plants, animals and energy. There the term was, oddly
applied back onto this place, Terra, that was supposed to be the model
environment.  There was a lot I liked about the idea of re-greening
our own planet as science fiction, but there was also something
troubling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like the Mojave, and I cringe to see residents try to terraform a
little bite of the desert into a slice of midwest suburbia with a lawn.
 But then again, the Anasazi practiced corn and squash farming where
there was water.  Humans have been trying to terraform for many
thousands of years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Humans like to apply both sentimental and survival contexts in working
the land.  It may be the myth of Shangri-La, or the desire for a
grassy golf course, or the traditional imperative for more open meadows
for grazing lands.  Garden-making! So old and so human that it got
attributed to God and Eden.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever we do to preserve biodiversity and wild places, we will be
balancing those garden-making values, traits and trends with science,
demand for land and our current sense of justice.   Hopefully we can
preserve traditional ways of life and do a better job for all the
reasons this book details, but I hope we don't stop trying to give
other species besides humans top priority in some habitats.  I sure
hope you can see some smart choices on the horizon that can keep some
of those magical places where people are not primary gardeners, but
just visitors.  Places where that idea of a garden not touched by the
hands of man can still inspire, and the species we might not like as
pets or in our garden plots can thrive.
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