David Gans (tnf) Sat 6 Mar 10 11:54
I expect we'll have plenty to talk about when we meet for lunch on Tuesday, Peter. Have you read Carol Brightman's "Sweet Chaos: The Grateful Dead's American Adventure"? It is right up your alley. See Topic 29 in this conference for a discussion with the author.
Mark McDonough (mcdee) Sat 6 Mar 10 11:59
Boy, living out here on the East Coast, my lunching opportunities aren't what they could be! ;-)
Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Sat 6 Mar 10 13:54
LOL, yes, and I eat lunch almost every day! Yes, David, that may have been the first one I read, and I've burned through a half dozen others since. I'm finishing Steve Parish's Home Before Daylight now. (I'm ready for Conversations with the Dead if you care to make a sale on Tuesday.)
Cogito ergo Cogito, cogito, cogito ........ (robertflink) Mon 8 Mar 10 16:51
>It's such a different time. I think we've (mostly) lost touch with the spiritual, emotional, and cultural strivings which motivated a good part of 60s activism. Now it's mostly come down to (queue up the O'Jays) money and power.< I'm fairly sure that many Tea Party members see their movement as spiritual, emotional and cultural striving albeit at odds with much (but not all) the strivings of the 60's.
uber-muso hipster hyperbole (pjm) Mon 8 Mar 10 16:55
I think one of the big differences is that they want to do whatever they want but they don't necessarily want you to do whatever you want. The live and let live of the 60's is conspicuously missing from their rhetoric.
Mark McDonough (mcdee) Mon 8 Mar 10 19:30
That's a good observation. There was certainly bitching about "the straights" in my circles in the 60s and very early 70s, but overall the focus was much more on "doing your own thing" than on calling everyone else evil and corrupt. Of course, as we've discussed re: the many political strands which affected Ramparts, it depended on which part of the counterculture you ended up in. It was a long way from my experience and beliefs to those of, say, the Weather Underground.
Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Mon 8 Mar 10 21:10
Mark, that split was one of things I learned about on this project. The politicos didn't always play well with the hippies. Warren Hinckle's piece on the SF hippies in 1967 is one example. Another is the Kesey/Garcia line on radical politics; in short, no thanks. (Or rather, in Kesey's case, a little "Home on the Range" during a Berkeley anti-war rally.)
Jennifer Simon (fingers) Mon 8 Mar 10 21:25
Kesey was from La Junta, Colorado: you can take the boy off the range...
Mark McDonough (mcdee) Tue 9 Mar 10 04:10
We all called ourselves "freaks" rather than hippies. The distinction is laid out very nicely, I thought, in Jane and Michael Stern's "Sixties People." That book is worth checking out. They've become known mainly as food writers, and it's been kind of overlooked as a result. It lays out the different threads of the 60s very nicely, and the parts I am old enough to remember it gets right.
Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Tue 9 Mar 10 07:16
Thanks, Mark, I'll have a look. BTW, I've had a lot of luck at the Marin County libraries on these topics--the 60s, Ramparts, the Dead. (Dennis McNally assured me that this was no coincidence.) That saved me a lot of time and effort with the Ramparts project. I'm moving back to the East Bay in a couple of weeks, but my five years in Marin have been very sweet. I've even run into Stewart Brand a few times.
Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Mon 15 Nov 10 12:03
Thanks again for the discussion, and to David Gans for suggesting it. A quick announcement that A Bomb in Every Issue is now out in paperback. Here's the Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Bomb-Every-Issue-Ramparts-Magazine/dp/159558546X/ref=tmm _pap_title_0
David Gans (tnf) Mon 15 Nov 10 12:13
Julie Sherman (julieswn) Mon 15 Nov 10 20:23
Peter Richardson (richardsonpete) Thu 18 Nov 10 11:05
Yes, it makes an excellent stocking stuffer, lol. I'm now contemplating new projects inspired by other WELL discussions, ingesting Peter Conners's *The White Hand Society*, and looking forward to that Inkwell conversation. (I gather it begins December 8.)
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