X (joeyx) Sun 18 Sep 11 20:58
As proven by the video clip I mentioned, I approve of a couch as a transportation vehicle. It seems like bringing a finished thought to the Mekons table would be too painful to see it slowly picked apart as the Mekons do their Mekons thing. Even if the finished thought is good.
X (joeyx) Mon 19 Sep 11 08:18
Jon, I know that you have close ties to the Gang Of Four. While I never blame a musician for getting paid, do you have any thoughts on the use of Gang of Fourâs âNaturalâs Not In Itâ in an Xbox commercial? Jon King once said of licensing music for commercials, "You donât want your music to be castrated."
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Mon 19 Sep 11 09:03
no comment! It is fairly cool for me to be able to tell my boys that I went to art school with the scratchy guitarist off the Xbox ad. I remember there was a big debate when Chumbawamba wouldn't let some huge corporation use Tubthumper... In the end they relented & took the dosh and used it to finance small presses and anarchist fanzines all across Europe. Don't know what the Gang Of Four did with their money. I shall ask! I've had 2 songs on SEX IN THE CITY! 1 on DOG THE BOUNTY HUNTER but nobody has offered any castration dollars for Skull Orchard tunes...
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Mon 19 Sep 11 10:40
Just sold one of the Skull Orchard song paintings via yarddog.com so my mood is improving after car dying on me in traffic and a runaway cash card needing cancellation. It is wet in Chicago.
X (joeyx) Mon 19 Sep 11 13:09
hey, congrats on selling one of the paintings! Getting back to SOR for a moment, other than adding in the men's choir, did you re-record any of the instruments? I noticed that Fred Armistan drums on one of the tracks. I forget that he was in Trenchmouth AND married (or dating) Sally...
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Mon 19 Sep 11 21:49
Fred was married to Sally Timms for a while way back when. He played percussion on the original sessions and played drums on all the SXSW dates we played just after the album came out. Sally and I were in a recording studio tonight talking about a film she made of me and Fred in her basement that can never be shown or ever mentioned again.... Verdun and Green Valleys weren't on the original album so they got a complete reworking - I played some guitar on much of it because a lot of those parts have evolved over the years, Barcley McKay (ex-Pretty Things and Leeds housemate) played some great keyboards, John Rice did his wah-wah thing (he played violin on the original sessions). Guto Dafis, Julian Hayman and Cousin Mark Price worked with me on the Ballad of Solomon Jones which was completely new. The big difference is obviously the choir and Dave Nagler's great arrangements.
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Mon 19 Sep 11 21:53
Here's a great video made by the choir of their first trip to Chicago for CeltFest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSIx_mxtuQ
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Tue 20 Sep 11 05:15
Back to Tom.... When I perform with the choir we usually do 2 Tom Jones (Delilah & Green Green Grass of Home) songs and two other tunes with Tom Jones in the title (Tom Jones Levitation & Tom Jones Come Home which was written by Paul Burch and explores the touchy issue of my paternity) and when I play with Julian Hayman, Guto Dafis & Cousin mark in Wales we always sing Julian's DELILAH answer song I SHOOK THE BLADE AT DELILAH in which it is apparent that no murder takes place. In Tom Jones Levitation I'm substituting Tom Jones for both Prince Charlie Windsor and Dylan Thomas for completely opposite reasons. Tom Levitates back to Wales from Vegas after being elected President of a free Welsh republic.
My free and simple demeanor set everybody at ease. (pdl) Tue 20 Sep 11 05:19
Is Tubby Brothers based on real, undertaking brothers?
X (joeyx) Tue 20 Sep 11 06:39
Speaking of Tom and Charlie, Tom Jones, Knighted. John Cale, Knighted. How long before you have to be on your knees before Charlie while he waves a phallic symbol around your head? Or does that sound too close to the film with Fred you can't show?
Ed Ward (captward) Tue 20 Sep 11 08:48
Breaking in here briefly to remind all the folks reading this that you, too, can grill Jon just as relentlessly as the rest of us folks simply by sending an e-mail to inkwell [at] well [dot] com (not writing it out because of all the lovely robots out there). Our trained operatives will get the message to him as soon as humanly possible.
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Tue 20 Sep 11 19:42
Sir John Cale? When did that happen? I am certainly not honors list material and bow to no jugged eared toff!
X (joeyx) Tue 20 Sep 11 20:24
Cale took a knee in the jugged eared toff's 2010 Birthday Honours. Hey Jon, any plans for another Wee Hairy Beasties album? Actually, now that Choir is in town, do you want to have them add their sound to all your music?
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Tue 20 Sep 11 21:03
Well they do sing a bit on the Mekons album no more beasties I fear - we were the most unlikely children's entertainers ever. It was a little edgy.
what, me worry? (zisk) Tue 20 Sep 11 21:43
Hi Jon, great to see you here. Never had a chance to thank you for http://futureofmusic.org/blog/2010/11/15/fmc-10th-anniversary-posters-amazing- jon-langford Thank you so much for that. What a beautiful image.
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Wed 21 Sep 11 05:30
FMC is an amazing organization - send them money everybody!
X (joeyx) Wed 21 Sep 11 21:17
And just today, as I walked from the subway to the house, The Three Johns came on the ol' iPod. Still sounds pretty good! Jon, can you talk a little about John Peel and doing a session for him? He always seemed a champion, and sometimes, you only need one solid champion. Similarly, what can you say about Sophie Bourbon? She's been connected to you guys for as long as I can remember but I'm not quite sure what role she plays with/for the Mekons.
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Wed 21 Sep 11 22:44
Fucking America - Don't ask don't tell gets the boot but then you have to go & kill another innocent black guy to balance things out. Three Johns were a good band who drank too much, John Peel was a great DJ who helped some great & good bands, Sophie Bourbon is mixing me a dark & stormy as we speak.... Death Death America!
Jon Langford (jon-langford) Thu 22 Sep 11 09:11
sorry - have I scared you all away
Peter Meuleners (pjm) Thu 22 Sep 11 09:13
I think there are a number of lurkers following this conversation with interest.
My free and simple demeanor set everybody at ease. (pdl) Thu 22 Sep 11 09:22
i obviously like the whole album quite a bit. But for whatever reason, I am particulary drawn to the song, Tubby Brothers. Did any real undertakers from your town serve as the inspiration for that song? Is there any story or stories behind it?
Ed Ward (captward) Thu 22 Sep 11 09:47
Really, a punk-rocker from Leeds getting all political! What will happen next?
Gail (gail) Thu 22 Sep 11 10:04
Lots of Americans having similar dark ruminations.
(fom) Thu 22 Sep 11 11:55
What???! Jon Langford in inkwell.vue?! Why are these things not more widely announced? Where would I have had to go to hear about this? I try to visit inkwell every week at least, but obv I missed a week there. I hope this discussion is still ongoing. Will contribute to it as soon as I have time to read through the preceding posts. Certain Langford songs are on almost all of my itunes playlists (and thus CDs to play in the car) but I need to update. (I am so glad I happened to check inkwell.vue today.)
Gail (gail) Thu 22 Sep 11 12:11
Glad you checked in! (It's on the home page of The WELL and was promoted via Facebook by me, plus of course by the hosts of Inkwell in the circles they frequent.)
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