descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Fri 3 May 13 16:39
You mentioned sitting at the computer all day. Are you familiar with what I call "nagware"? This is a product like RSIGuard http://www.rsiguard.com/ which tells you to take breaks every so often and can even enforce them by locking out the keyboard and mouse. I allow myself to cheat but not all that often. This software makes it easy to up exercise just a wee bit by adding several 5 minute or so breaks during the day. Not all the software in this class has stretches built it but this product does. That does not of course stop me from picking up the weights on the floor near my desk and doing some exercises. Or I can go get a snack but as you pointed out, habit helps.
Celia Chapman (lark) Fri 3 May 13 20:02
I've been reading the book this week and just want to say how much I love the style of your writing, Darya. It's light and approachable and I love the touches of humor.
descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Fri 3 May 13 23:13
I'll second what <lark> wrote. My wife skimmed your book one night after I told her I was reading it to participate in this online discussion. Her opinion is that your book is the kind that could become very popular because of how you approached the topic and your writing style.
John Payne (satyr) Sat 4 May 13 21:46
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John Payne (satyr) Sat 4 May 13 21:48
Is anyone checking the inkwell-hosts email?
paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Sat 4 May 13 22:53
If anyone is trying to e-mail a question and hasn't gotten through, you could also send it to me at my well.com address (debunix at well.com). I'm finally getting to read the book--didn't get my copy until the work week was in full swing--and it's going quickly, keeping me turning pages. Darya, it seems like you were as impressed as I was with Brian Wanasink's Mindless Eating, and I see you put a number of findings from his work into your recommendations. I was impressed enough to change my daily tableware--smaller dinner plates, soup bowls, and drinking glasses, but was startled by how hard it was to implement the recommended changes. I had some lovely solid stoneware soup bowls that retained heat beautifully, but they were 3 cups plus and I decided to look for 2 cup bowls. I've been looking for 2 years and still haven't found a set I like in that size, so I'm plain corelle again for soups. I decided to reserve my pretty pint-plus cobalt blue drinking glasses for plain water, and to get 12 oz glasses for milk or the occasional juice with meals, and it took months to find a nice set that were appropriately tall & thin and not short & wide. I think it's not just the fast food serving that's grown bigger: our household dishes have been supersized too!
. (wickett) Sun 5 May 13 04:54
An interesting observation! And another recommendation for "old stuff."
Darya Rose (daryarose) Sun 5 May 13 11:00
jmcarlin, Yep, I've never tried them myself, but I've heard good things about Rescue Time and others that keep you from visiting certain sites too often. I also like the Jawbone Up that vibrates on your wrist to remind you if you've been sedentary for too long.
Darya Rose (daryarose) Sun 5 May 13 11:03
lark, Thanks! That was my goal. I find that too many weight loss books are either very technical or very preachy, or both. I've found that rigidity isn't particularly useful in this realm, so try to use that to make the message more approachable. I also wanted to make it entertaining enough that people actually enjoy reading, in addition to being educated.
Darya Rose (daryarose) Sun 5 May 13 11:09
debunix, Totally agree. It's ridiculously hard to find decent looking and feeling tableware that is appropriately sized. I've heard some people have had luck at thrift stores, but personally I prefer a more modern look. These days I'm using mostly Heath Ceramics, but they are pricey and the dinner plates are still a little big. I've seen some companies that make smaller plates for the purpose of maintaining portions, but the ones I've seen aren't very high quality, made in China, etc.
descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Sun 5 May 13 15:26
Darya, All the points in your restaurant chapter made sense to me. But one of my weaknesses is bolting my food when out with friends so I can keep my mouth free for talking. There's also an internal voice that tells me "you're out to eat and the rules are out of the window". (Naughty voice. Bad voice. Go stand in the corner.) You did mention eating slowly and mindfully in that chapter but I need to underline and highlight that when going out to eat. In fact, carrying a small card with me and looking at it discretely before I greet friends would be helpful.
descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Mon 6 May 13 11:04
My wife has been reading your book and we had a thought about farmer's markets. First, they are wonderful and we hope your recommendation causes more people to support them. But there are also food stands where you can buy some food on impulse that might not be the best. If you buy some wonderful kale and eat a burrito, there might be no net gain. So people should be careful not to be hungry when they go shopping for fresh veges. Also, my wife exclaimed in a voice of happy surprise: Darya's right about adding a bit of lemon as a finisher.
David Gans (tnf) Mon 6 May 13 14:13
We are fortunate to have two lemon trees in our yard and ripe fruit on 'em 365 days a year. Rita uses lemons and lemon juice a lot! That is a good point aobut the farmers' market. We have some wonderful vendors at Grand Lake whose products I must reluctantly avoid.
Darya Rose (daryarose) Mon 6 May 13 15:09
jmcarlin, Restaurants can be tricky. I try to view them as an opportunity to eat even slower than normal, because your mouth is occupied with chewing AND talking. I understand throwing diet rules out the window for restaurants, but eating slowly shouldn't be one of them since it should help you enjoy food more, not less. I use my iPhone to set reminders to "chew 25 times" and it really helps!
Darya Rose (daryarose) Mon 6 May 13 15:13
I eat at farmers markets all the time and don't think there's anything wrong with it. Burritos are fine, and if it means you'll be eating kale later in the week I think it is still a net gain. Plus, the local stands often use local produce and meats, which makes it better than a Del Taco burrito. Sure, if weight loss is a goal then too many calories can be a problem, but slightly more indulgent food now and then is welcome in my book :)
David Gans (tnf) Mon 6 May 13 15:51
> Plus, the local stands often use local produce and meats, which makes it > better than a Del Taco burrito. For sure!
David Gans (tnf) Mon 6 May 13 15:54
When I began my new life of paying close attention to nutrition (approaching my 50th birthday), I started with Andrew Weil's "Eating Well for Optimum Health." One of the most important htings I learned from that book was that it is okay to depart from the plan occasionally. What's the point of living a long time if you're not enjoying your life? So now I eat a rich sugary dessert from time to time; I just don't bullshit myself about it. Leaving out the potatoes and rice and bread and cereal every day makes it possible to eat the "wrong" things from time and still maintain a healthy life.
Darya Rose (daryarose) Mon 6 May 13 17:41
David, Exactly! I really like Andy Weil's work, we have very similar philosophies.
David Gans (tnf) Tue 7 May 13 09:20
Hey, tell us about that wonderful farmers' market bag you designed and where our readers can get one. My wife and I have one and we love it.
descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Tue 7 May 13 09:52
> Plus, the local stands often use local produce and meats, which makes it > better than a Del Taco burrito. Sadly that s not necessarily so. Another comment: my wife and I last night chatted about your recommendtion to explore unfamiliar veges. We're not fans of unusual proteins that the foodies on shows like Iron Chef enjoy, but bring on new veges creatively prepared. There's a great world out there for those with a bit of a sense of culinary adventure.
Darya Rose (daryarose) Tue 7 May 13 14:28
Mercado is the bag and it's amazing! It's designed to help you get ripe farmers market produce home without it getting smashed, and it works wonderfully. More deets and ordering info here: http://summertomato.com/mercado-the-ultimate-farmers-market-bag-now-shipping/
Darya Rose (daryarose) Tue 7 May 13 14:30
It's too bad farmers markets allow food that isn't locally grown be sold. That isn't the case here in SF, but I know the standards by the market organizers here are really high. Hopefully this will improve throughout the country as real food catches on.
paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Tue 7 May 13 14:51
I was very disappointed in the big Farmer's Market in St Louis--it was a permanent installation with year round greengrocers who seemed to specialize in produce just a few minutes from spoilage, and then in the spring/summer/fall a quite excellent true local market. I first went on an off day when there were no local farmers, and was shocked. Then I figured out the system.
Dave (dsp2) Tue 7 May 13 20:22
Welcome, Darya. I just picked up the Kindle version of your book this afternoon and have started reading it. I've been following your website and some of your social media posts for the last couple of years. I look forward to reading the book and to the discussion!
descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Tue 7 May 13 21:45
Darya, My wife paid you and the book an ultimate compliment, of a sort. She said the book would be a big hit as part of a KQED fundraiser. So you need to have an agent contact PBS/KQED or whomever and sign up to present the material you wrote about. This came from my wife getting hooked on reading your book after deciding not to read it. All I needed to do was leave it on the kitchen table and she's kept reading it! Your book is addictive.
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