Celia Chapman (lark) Fri 6 Jun 14 14:30
Many many thanks Lauren. I did get a copy of the book last night and am looking forward to working with it.
Elaine Sweeney (sweeney) Fri 6 Jun 14 14:41
(katecat) Fri 6 Jun 14 14:53
yes thank you so much -- I've bought your book and am getting a great deal out of it, not all related to clutter.
descend into a fractal hell of meta-truthiness (jmcarlin) Fri 6 Jun 14 16:26
Thanks Lauren. I've started working through my "junk" and there's less of it now than before.
Renshin Bunce (renshin) Fri 6 Jun 14 18:15
Lauren, I've been reading, not participating, but you've given me a lot to think about. I'm giving some stuff the cold eye, looking forward to doing another purge.
It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sat 7 Jun 14 06:59
Yes, Thank you! Although really I want to take this conversation and put it in a little box and keep it FOREVER. Is that wrong? :O)
Mark McDonough (mcdee) Sat 7 Jun 14 09:35
Really great book, and a great conversation.
paralyzed by a question like that (debunix) Sat 7 Jun 14 17:37
I'm coming in at the tail end of this conversation, because life has been too cluttered to read the book along with the discussion. Just wanted to mention how timely this is: the New England Journal of Medicine May 22nd issue has a review article about Hoarding Disorder, which is one of the new psychiatric diagnoses included in the DSM-5, and the discussion here seems spot on to help those of us with hoarding tendencies from sliding down that slippery slope to the disorder. It's definitely more about us than our stuff.
Renshin Bunce (renshin) Sat 7 Jun 14 19:09
Lauren, that reminds me -- one of my patients' son is a hoarder. His behavior just gets worse and worse, yelling and screaming in public and so on. He's in his 50's. She supports him, he has a nice (well it was nice) apartment and food and money on a credit card and a psychiatrist and nothing seems to help. I've read that hoarding is one of the hardest of syndromes to treat. Do you have any advice?
Lauren Rosenfeld (lgosenfeld) Sun 8 Jun 14 09:47
Dear Renshin, I wish I could help give some insight into your son's friends' disorder. Unfortunately, I am not a psychiatrist -- and as noted above -- true hoarding is classified as a psychiatric illness, so it's an obsessive compulsive disorder that is different than simply cluttering. However, it may be helpful for your friend to read Breathing Room, in that it might give her some insight into how our consuming emotions cause us to hang on to objects and even trash -- which is true for both hoarders and clutterers. Holding both your friend and her son in my heart.
Lauren Rosenfeld (lgosenfeld) Sun 8 Jun 14 09:55
I want to say "thank you" in return to everyone who has read and participated in this discussion. It's been extremely lively and engaging. You've asked some great questions and offered me wonderful stories and insights and humor that have touched my heart and tickled my funny bone. I feel very privileged to have been invited here. It's a very special community. Thank you to those of you who have purchased and read the book. And also to those who are recommending it to friends. The more decluttered we are in both home and heart, the world becomes that much more compassionate, happy, and free. If you are interested in continuing on with this topic, you can join me at http://facebook.com/getbreathingroom or you can go to my website and sign up for the newsletter (where you'll receive a complimentary e-book entitled "Ten Simple Soul Decluttering Tips") by going to: http://lgrosenfeld.com/free-stuff/free-e-books/ Wishing everyone peace, strength, and joy on your decluttering journey. Warmly, Lauren
Renshin Bunce (renshin) Sun 8 Jun 14 18:09
Thanks again, Lauren.
It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Wed 18 Jun 14 11:35
I just tossed out the following: (after some sad deliberations) about 1500 flea circus cards (I had 3000, which was a giant heavy box of itself) about 1000 clown cards and envelopes (they had the wrong address on them-- beautifully printed artwork by <bratwood> but I kept another 400 or so which I can change the address on-- but realistically I wasn't going to use all those cards. about 500 flea circus bumperstickers-- I printed them 15 years ago, and still haven't gone through my stock. I kept half, they are still good, but if I need more I'll print them I whittle down 5 boxes down to 2-- which seems fair. I still have boxes and boxes of stuff to go through however.
Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Wed 18 Jun 14 17:34
Celia Chapman (lark) Fri 20 Jun 14 17:37
It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sat 28 Jun 14 19:59
Last week-- I started going through the boxes of books in the garage-- they are in surprisingly good shape, considering they've been there for 8 years. I have 65 boxes of books-- I'd like to have around 12 when I am done. There are many books it's easy to say no to, but many of them I remember buying, I searched for them, or they are part of a collection that I completed (all the Nero Wolfe's, all the Ian Flemin bond's, etc) Keeping circus and theater arts books, I've been through 23 boxes so far, and I'm getting rid of 18. Not a bad ratio, really.
Mark McDonough (mcdee) Sat 28 Jun 14 20:40
I decide years ago to concentrate on a few areas of real and lasting interest to me, some very broad (WW II) and some very narrow (water and ecology in the American West). I also have boxes of books acquired before I reached that decision. Good for you! I should grab a box or two and start sifting.
J. Eric Townsend (jet) Sat 28 Jun 14 20:53
We did this as well -- looking at half.com we discovered many of our books were worth USD $1 at most. Those went to recycling, and many others went to donation. At the same time we discovered that some of our "cheap paperback trash" was worth serious $$$ as it had never been reprinted.
It's all done with mirrors... (kafclown) Sun 29 Jun 14 16:41
Yeah-- I just don't know what's valuable, and don't have the time or the bandwidth to sift through 50+ books a box to see if something is still around. I'm not even keeping most of the plays (over 700 as I recall) some are sure to be valuable, but I am not going to have the space for them. I'm sad, but I'm going to move on. I've got tons of art books also, going to keep a few, but for the most part, I'll either find a buyer to buy all the books, or I'll donate them and claim large amounts on my tax returns. Many of these books at a bookstore at half list price would still be $20-$25. (I bought them at 40% or more off)
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