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	    #1072: a long night's journey into day (poet-lariat) Tue 8 Jul 08 22:09
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        Thanks, Cindy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think there is a simple one-size-fits-all answer to the
problem.  I'll report back after I speak with someone who, hopefully,
has cognitive/behavioral and/or hypno-therapy expertise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, a psychologist will tend to approach the psychological
aspects of the problem.  Traumatic memories, shaky self-confidence,
limbic loops.  OK, that's why I'm consulting a psychologist.  I'm not
sure I want to get into re-working the past events.  It seems to me
that this is almost a chimera, a psychological mirage.  But that could
be because of my own orientation to a more spiritual, holistic approach
to experience.  By that, I am not saying that I advocate avoiding the
traumatic, only that in my view it is better to subsume it under higher
level categories that allow for true, deeper healing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been addressing the musicological and physiological aspects of
the problem.  Interestingly, Robert Jourdain's book, 'Music, the Brain
and Ecstasy', has provided some interesting models for contemplation. 
In writing about great performers, he notes that musicians at the top
of their game are focusing on the deeper musical hierarchies and
structures of the works, instead of the physical aspects of producing
the notes.  This is good stuff.  I had heard this from other performers
already, in much less academic language:  &amp;quot;It's all about the music;
stay focused on the music.&amp;quot;  but of course, this also assumes a level
of complete mastery where none of the notes is posing a problem.  For
that, nothing can take the place of fearless and unrelenting attention
to detail, not allowing the slightest screw-up to evade attention:  if
it is repeated in the same spot, it evidences a physiological confusion
or &amp;quot;mis-mapping&amp;quot; of the sequence of events.  Slowing the suspect
passage down to extreme slow speed allows one to re-map the entire
muscular and mental process.  This is indispensable.  And in the past,
I was completely glossing over this level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One major problems for perfectionists is the tendency to stop and
obsess when mistakes take place.  My current classical instructor,
[Bahram Behroozi], along with his many other considerable virtues, is
pre-eminent in not paying attention to small accidental errors.  He is
only interested in the mechanics of making music, and patterns
(repeated errors) of mistakes.  One of the best things musicians can
do, IMO, to overcome this terrible habit (stopping and re-starting,
obsessing...) is to SING along.  This seems to entrain much deeper and
powerful brain mechanisms, both conscious and subconscious:  allies
one's consciousness to the musical contour, the larger patterns of the
journey.  If an error occurs, one's singing and commitment are to the
larger pattern, and the mistake drifts quickly away like a piece of
driftwood in the wake of a fast boat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another helpful process for me has been to focus on &amp;quot;proprioception&amp;quot;,
the internal/interior perception of the body.  To this I would ally
one's mental picture of the harmonic and musical structure:  in fact,
the mental &amp;quot;rehearsal&amp;quot; or recreation of a piece is a form of extended
physical mapping.  When the attention is withdrawn into the interior
castle, the danger of &amp;quot;accidents&amp;quot;/external events impinging is greatly
reduced.
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	    #1071: your own private (clmyers) Tue 8 Jul 08 12:48
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        Buh?
You bring me out of retirement for a performance art on performance anxiety.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are my thoughts, sir poet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trouble with such anxiety is that it tends to be self-reinforcing.  Have
an anxiety attack once, then anticipate having another one, which you do,
and so on and so on.  One goal I would set for myself in that situation
would be to break that pattern of conditioning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know if hypnotherapy would help, but it'd be worth a try.  As would
a cognitive-behavioral kind of therapy that is designed to break these kind
of thought/response patterns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thought would be to call up Carly Simon and ask her how she copes?
She's almost as famous for her performance anxiety as she is for her string
of hits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This article is interesting:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20631646/
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	    #1070: metric buttload of  (cjp) Tue 8 Jul 08 12:06
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        Fascinating question that I'd love to hear answered!
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	    #1069: a long night's journey into day (poet-lariat) Mon 7 Jul 08 21:33
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        I was looking at old topics and saw this one being inactive.  I wonder
if the Krakpot Shrink is still around.  If so, I will pose a puzzler
that I am already seeking advice on, namely performance anxiety,
jitters, black outs in performing classical music publicly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a certain irony here in that in the last two years I have
begun for the first time to perform completely free-form unrehearsed
improvised ragas in public.  For these, if I have any landmarks or
strategy at all, it usually gets jettisoned in the first few seconds of
improvisation.  Remarkably, I have very little anxiety or fears about
this style of play.  There do occasionally occur &amp;quot;glitches&amp;quot;, but since
I am confident of my ability to turn these to good account (a great
jazz teacher once called improvisation &amp;quot;the art of recovery&amp;quot;), and make
something interesting happen, they do not hang me up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Performing classical repertoire, OTOH, is a whole different beast. 
Playing pieces that I can almost play in my sleep and nail every time
in the studio becomes a boot camp of tension, anxiety, fear and
trembling, blackouts small and large.  This has improved especially in
the last year.  There is a big component of sheer competence and the
confidence borne from achieving higher levels of competence; and the
endless hours of practice are therefore bearing much solid fruit.  But
the gremlins still wait in the wings.  My sister, a
counselor/therapist, has suggested hypnotherapy might be a good thing
to try.  What says Dr. Krakpot?
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	    #1068: Moon howls back (poet-lariat) Thu 16 Dec 04 17:05
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        thanks.  It truly feels that that is happening.  
There will always be a bit of rough riding when you hit the white
water though, negotiating around submerged boulders....
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	    #1067: just your average bodice-ripping intellectual (clmyers) Wed 15 Dec 04 09:33
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        Yes I agree.
Those flashbacks are an overwhelmed psyche's attempt to digest and
integrate and it's sort of like a pinball machine flashing &amp;quot;TILT!!!!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am hoping that incident of a year ago represents rock bottom for the two
of them and that they are finding better ways to navigate this difficult
terrain together.
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	    #1066: Moon howls back (poet-lariat) Tue 14 Dec 04 23:16
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        The flashbacks are his, and are coming from re-emerging/recovered
memories of sexual abuse by his father in childhood.  And they are
wreaking havoc, although by now, I think they both have developed some
tools for dealing with the episodes.  However, about a year ago, a
flashback triggered an interaction that then hooked into my daughter's
own minefield, set off a chain reaction that cost them (and me) several
thousand in court fees and a physical separation. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, how we all need so much healing!
However, I still am grateful in that in my view, the fact that he is
recovering the memories signifies a readiness for a much deeper and
more thorough healing.
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	    #1065: just your average bodice-ripping intellectual (clmyers) Tue 14 Dec 04 16:34
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        How are these episodes affecting her ability to do her life right now?
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	    #1064: Moon howls back (poet-lariat) Tue 14 Dec 04 16:05
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        Thanks very much, Cindy 
(BTW, I do know it's *CLmyers*;  it's just that I go with the quick
dyslexic read, AND it's easier to pronounce!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had posed the question to my sister, who it turned out is a big fan
of EMDR, and other neurofeedback approaches.  Then, as it also turned
out, my daughter had in her own restless explorations, touched on most
of these bases and had very decided opinions about all of them. 
Decided not to get in the middle of them.  And, you were correct about
the flashbacks, they are symptomatic of PTSD.  It's just that these
things take time, time, time....
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	    #1063: it's time for a colorful metaphor (jmcarlin) Mon 13 Dec 04 22:52
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        There are a growing number of studies using standard western methodologies
which shows value in acupuncture.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&amp;amp;DB=pubmed
and search on 'acupuncture'.
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