Was "Woodstock II" doomed before it ever

woodstock.44: Was "Woodstock II" doomed before it ever started?

woodstock.44.0: Ray Russ (raemo) Fri 12 Aug 94 16:57

So, the hype has been started and the media (as always) has taken the ball
and are running with it in their own unique, frenzied and utterly hopeless
way.

My question is do you believe this dog-and-pony-show is/was destined for
failure before the arrival of the first yuppie-packed Winnebago?

woodstock.44.1: David Gans (tnf) Fri 12 Aug 94 17:14

Where does it say this event is a failure?

woodstock.44.2: Barry Bernstein (barryb) Fri 12 Aug 94 18:02

i am new here but , i don't understand all the cynicysim. if they could
have made big bucks back then they would have. i say its a failure if the
music sucks.

woodstock.44.3: flo (wstock3) Fri 12 Aug 94 19:12

so far the music has been good. Todd Rundgrin has rocked the house.

woodstock.44.4: zenkair (zenkair) Fri 12 Aug 94 22:17

Doesn't seem what the first one was all about was sponaneity...
and disgust for something called "the establishment"?
I seem to remember that.
Don't you want to get 1,000 together, and make the fence disappear, or say
"no" we won't pay another $250 for beer, enuf is enuf already...

woodstock.44.5: pinhead (zenkair) Fri 12 Aug 94 22:39

Ah, I see creative things are happening with the fence in Topic 43.
Have fun.

woodstock.44.6: I keep hearing how our generation has nothing to protest. That (wstock3) Sat 13 Aug 94 07:18

Thats total bullshit. We are the first generation where our parents don't
even live together, sex can be deadly, and you have to dodge guns to get to
your first hour class at the public high school. Anyone who says this
generation has nothing to protest needs to wake up. This Woodstock is a
positive reaction during a decade of utter chaos and violence. Besides
Candlebox kicked ass last night. This festivel is great. The media once
again is wrong.

woodstock.44.7: wildcard (wstock4) Sat 13 Aug 94 07:46

I don''t understand why people say woodstock is doomed . Some people say
that it will never be anything like the one in 69. They give various reasons
why it is not as authentic. Most of all I hear this from people who did,nt
come as an excuss for not comeing. I know I came hear with the spirit that
this was going to be the woodstock for my generation and the porpose of this
was for three days of peace and kick ass rock n roll. So far it has been a
great time and I see a bunch of people here just like me who just want too
rock n roll, get high and have a good time, an unforgetable time, and toput
all cares beside for the weekend. With that spirit how can this even be
close to being doomed. The people who put this on dont make it what it is.
Its all of us, me in fact who make this a success and thats what I see and
feel. PEACE, LOVE

woodstock.44.8: you dude (wstock1) Sat 13 Aug 94 08:25

barry bernstein your comment is right on the money. You pay for the music,a
and if it sucks then that's the ultimate bummer, so far they have a lot to
offer.

woodstock.44.9: David Gans (tnf) Sat 13 Aug 94 08:27

>The people who put this on dont make it what it is.

It's true!!!

woodstock.44.10: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Sat 13 Aug 94 08:44

in a lot of ways, this is just like the first one. some corporate
types try to set up a scene whedre they can basically exploit (read
"leverage") youth culture.

youth culture turns out to be pretty fucking resourceful and
resilient, and the fences come down.

some people decry the commercialism and the hustle, but lots of people
find each other and a sense of community purpose.

the media gets it all wrong as usual.

the rest of us out here try to figure out what the hell is *really*
happening and what really happened.

in the end it all becomes a scalable metaphor, except for those who
actually experienced the event, who become sort of irrelevant in the
final analysis.

some of the above may be projection. :-)

woodstock.44.11: mtvgitoffthe air (wstock5) Sat 13 Aug 94 09:41

As soon as the trailer first ran on that mindrot youth control channel
Pepsistock was doomed.

woodstock.44.12: nomoreguns@aol.com (wstock5) Sat 13 Aug 94 11:09

I'm live at woodstock now and it is unbelievable, those who said it would
suck should be here for themselves. It is the greatest concert of my
generation, 100 times better than Lalapoluza
The rules are really a lot more relaxed so more and more people are enjoying
themselves. i am doing some jwork for the Well, based in San Fran. that is
why I am working on these computers so much, but TRUST ME this is better
than anyone could have hoped for, there are over
300,000 people already here and more keep coming in, it is such a rush just
jto be here, so to answer all those who think that Woodstck would suck, YOU
are WRONG!
Any comments e-mail me at nomoreguns@aol.com

woodstock.44.13: dee (flanagan) Sat 13 Aug 94 13:38

watching it on pay per view and drinking... Coke.

woodstock.44.14: jt (wstock5) Sat 13 Aug 94 15:07

How'd Cypress Hill go on pay-per-view?
Did you get everything that was said and not responded to by this '94
Woodstock generation?

woodstock.44.15: pinhead (zenkair) Sat 13 Aug 94 15:23

Sounds fu*cin FANTASTIC! Mud people and all.
Once again proven that media hype doesn't intimidate the
resourcefulness of youth.
So we take the ENERGY home monday. Yes?

woodstock.44.16: VENUS (wstock3) Sat 13 Aug 94 18:55

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT WOODSTOCK ARE
THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HERE NOW HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PLACING A
MESSAGE ON THE INTERNET WITH NIN IN THE BACKGROUND.

woodstock.44.17: gopod for a day (jbk) Sat 13 Aug 94 19:13

I could do that in my living room. . . if I liked NIN enough to have a CD

woodstock.44.18: eliza (wstock2) Sun 14 Aug 94 10:32

This is like a little bit of Ruwanda.

woodstock.44.19: Puddnhead Wilson (warfrat) Sun 14 Aug 94 12:09

...with lots of food and no killing and lots of drugs and music...Rwanda?
Sure we couldn't use a better analogy?

woodstock.44.20: Bulgur & Wheatgrass & Windham Hill Songs (mglito) Sun 14 Aug 94 13:06

Prague?

woodstock.44.21: David Dalto (dd) Sun 14 Aug 94 17:23

Great town.

woodstock.44.22: Puddnhead Wilson (warfrat) Sun 14 Aug 94 21:21

Is Prague near Troy?

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