woodstock.43: WebStock: The New Journalism woodstock.43.0: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Fri 12 Aug 94 16:46 from the cheap seats in the datasphere . . . woodstock.43.1: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Fri 12 Aug 94 16:49 i've been checking out the Web pages from silicon valley. pretty cool stuff. i'm getting a much better sense of the scene there and the people than anything i'm getting off of CNN or boradcast news. as i look at the pics in the scrapbook, read the first hand accounts here, and wander around the web, i am realizing that *this* is how news should be covered, reported and analyzed. by the participants, not by outsiders with an axe to grind. woodstock.43.2: David Gans (tnf) Fri 12 Aug 94 17:13 Great page from a group of onsite nurses. woodstock.43.3: dee (flanagan) Fri 12 Aug 94 17:15 cool! nurses are way cool. woodstock.43.4: gail williams (gail) Fri 12 Aug 94 17:22 Yeah, the pages are inspiring! Pictures and voice and all.. Yay!!! and text that's fun with lynx, too... http://www.well.com/woodstock woodstock.43.5: TJ (wstock2) Fri 12 Aug 94 18:14 Chances are the music will be overwhelmed as the real story here by the huge compacting of humanity into, seemingly, too small a space. Already, holes have been cut in the fences, and hundreds if not thousands are pouring in free -- hmmm, where have we heard that one before? But with security only concerned with keeping food and drink out of the park (so Pepsi can make even more cash), no one is directing people where to camp, where to sit, no walkways are cleared, and one bank of toilets is already overflowing. However, it's almost certain no mainstream news media will notice this. They have a large, comfy, secure area behind the stages. They'll write about the 40 or so acts on stage (which they could as well be doing from home) and miss the news story about the 200,000 folks in front of them. woodstock.43.6: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Fri 12 Aug 94 18:58 Uh, a pointer or URL or sumpin' might be helpful. woodstock.43.7: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Fri 12 Aug 94 19:08 thought occurs to me that what the web medium needs is full motion vid and sound. i know that client software can call the external applications which support those features, but what is needed is client software which can do small soundbytes and short vid clips in native mode. i'm running mosaic on a sparc10, and i know it has the power to handle that stuff. it's a sure bet that there are video cameras up there getting lots of stuff that isn't making it onto the nightly news. audio, too. hey, somebody with the well crew should take that digital camera out and get some shots outside the tent! then post them to the scrapbook. woodstock.43.8: samoht (wstock4) Fri 12 Aug 94 19:10 In responese to TJ: The insight which you have demonstrated in you comment about the massive crush of humanity lightens my mood. The truley challenging part of this whole thing is navigating from one area to another. The tenting has truley grown absolutely out of control. The lack of common sense or just basic intuition is absolutly astounding. The basic sentiment is just who gives a fuck I think that I'll; just set up right here even though there are 4,000 people trying to walk through here and when I do set up here there will be absolutly no where for anyone to go, AH I DON'T CARE I WANT MY TENT NOW! Pretty pathetic if you ask me. (I don't really care if you did) ANyways it is only friday night and the situation is bound to only get worse. This will be the Woodstock which dosen't suffer from auto traffic but pedestrian traffic snafu. woodstock.43.9: (ernie) Fri 12 Aug 94 19:18 Sparc 10'll run it, Ax, but not enough bandwidth on the current backbone to send it is my understanding. Anyone in San Francisco got a Web connection so I can check out the scene this weekend? woodstock.43.10: Danica Remy (wstock1) Fri 12 Aug 94 19:39 Next upload off the server should have the photos of our ever evolving tent here at the show. Got some shots of Todd Rugrens Todd Pos from the show he just finished. Will be working on shots from the event later tonight. If we can patch it we will put up some live video also. But don't hold your breath for it ;-) it's on our that would be cool list. oops thats Todd Pod. woodstock.43.11: (ernie) Fri 12 Aug 94 19:48 How long do these persist--if I don't get to a machine till Monday will I still be able to see them? woodstock.43.12: Danica Remy (wstock1) Fri 12 Aug 94 20:13 The WEB server will live on in the WELL for as long as people think it should be there. The concept we are experimenting with is a server build by the WELL community. woodstock.43.13: Dan Levy (danlevy) Fri 12 Aug 94 20:33 I really love reading the messages from people who just walk up to the booth and type. This is a brilliant populist medium, and, as usual, axon has it just right. This is the future of journalism. It has been entertaining seeing the camera crews come by to see what the hell we're up to here. Whoever said the music may be secondary is definitely right. The grounds by the stage are ridiculously crowded and people are setting up tents wherever the hell they want. It's more unzoned than Houston! woodstock.43.14: [31mMuch[32[5m2[0m[33mYoung[34mfor[44mWoodstock[0m[35m[5m1[0m (isaac) Fri 12 Aug 94 22:40 For those who asked, the URL is. http://www.well.com woodstock.43.15: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Fri 12 Aug 94 22:52 Actually, you can go direct to http://www.well.sf.ca/woodstock A lot of the files aren't available yet, but I buzzed over to the "official" Web site and grabbed the site map and performer list, and took a look at some album covers. But nix Nix NIX on the fucking PEPSI ad!!! woodstock.43.16: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Fri 12 Aug 94 22:56 By the way, for those who are struggling with NCSA Win Mosaic, I recommend giving WinWeb a try. I've had it for two days now and it's swell. ftp it from ftp.einet.net or Well folks can get it from my home directory in the next couple of days at /home/p/h/phred/winweb.zip woodstock.43.17: (ernie) Fri 12 Aug 94 23:03 Pepsi ad? woodstock.43.18: [31mMuch[32[5m2[0m[33mYoung[34mfor[44mWoodstock[0m[35m[5m1[0m (isaac) Fri 12 Aug 94 23:08
woodstock.43.19: [31mMuch[32[5m2[0m[33mYoung[34mfor[44mWoodstock[0m[35m[5m1[0m (isaac) Fri 12 Aug 94 23:12 the sitemap gif is available on the WELL page as well. Is the ad on metaverse, the [5m"[0mofficial[5m"[0m woodstock II inet site? woodstock.43.20: Danica Remy (wstock5) Sat 13 Aug 94 00:03 Yes, the ad is on Metaverse. NOT ON THE WELL SERVER! WE ahve a link to there site woodstock.43.21: Fuzzy Logic (phred) Sat 13 Aug 94 03:34 forgot to mention, the einet people are also doing MacWeb which I gather has been out for a little while longer (WinWeb was just released for general use and testing in the last 30 days). woodstock.43.22: Jennifer Powell (jnfr) Sat 13 Aug 94 08:07 Hey phred, does WinWeb show graphics? On a regular telnet line? woodstock.43.23: John Bagby (cubensis) Sat 13 Aug 94 14:46 post-western decentralized grass-roots access temporary autonomous zone for mind expansion hyperspace interzone the matrix the web the net cyberspace "is"-ness no matter how ya get here chemically electronically by fasting or meditation we are no longer in the drama of alienation we are in the ecstacy of communication one of 11 members of Zippy Pronoia Tour to US '94 woodstock.43.24: [5m[31m2 young for # 1[0m (isaac) Sat 13 Aug 94 15:38 [5mzippes?[0m woodstock.43.25: [5m[31m2 young for # 1[0m (isaac) Sat 13 Aug 94 15:39 what isa zippie? woodstock.43.26: John Bagby (cubensis) Sat 13 Aug 94 16:33 zen inspired pronoia professionals pronoia= the sneaking suspicion that others are conspiring to help you (and you them) manifest life poem balance the hemispheres of your brain creative/spiritual/intuitive >><< pragmatic/technical/logical whole cultural systems heal thyself from the inside out woodstock.43.27: gimme an "F"! (reva) Sat 13 Aug 94 17:21 >>pronoia I like that concept! woodstock.43.28: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Sat 13 Aug 94 18:50 me too! thanks for that report. woodstock.43.29: you are the eyes of the world (cubensis) Sat 13 Aug 94 20:14 no prob-- we are all potential "pronoid dance-o-phrenics" ;-D woodstock.43.30: Bulgur & Wheatgrass & Windham Hill Songs (mglito) Sun 14 Aug 94 13:05 Meanwhile, the NET site on my campus is closed, so I won't be able to see the WELL's Web pages till the weekday... :-( woodstock.43.31: Danica Remy (wstock2) Sun 14 Aug 94 17:03 Bummer then you wont' be albe to see the latest upload complete with an awesome shot of the parting clouds and beautiful sunset that happening right now! woodstock.43.32: George P. Mokray (gmoke) Sun 14 Aug 94 18:53 So what's the relation between pronoia and extropy? woodstock.43.33: John Bagby (cubensis) Sun 14 Aug 94 20:27 both, I would venture to guess, are natural byproducts of mother chaos fucking with the universe. hey, they both make MY life interesting, at least... woodstock.43.34: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Mon 15 Aug 94 13:11 well, as an experiment in collaborative journalism, i'd have to say this is a partial failure. i was excited at the start, but then the energy seemed to wither. it seems the participants were too busy participating to make any meaningful commentary on the events. still, and interesting attempt, and worth learning from for future attempts. ultimately, though, i got most of my information from the usual channels. keep swinging. woodstock.43.35: Half a million headstrong (mcow) Mon 15 Aug 94 13:20 This was my only channel of info, and it was exciting for most of the weekend. The feeling was a lot like reading the WELL during the Oakland Hills Fire or the earthquakes, except instead of covering a disaster it was covering a mostly-fun concert. woodstock.43.36: Max Yasgur's Ghost (axon) Mon 15 Aug 94 13:32 that's how i felt at first, mike. but then it seemed as though the energy really tapered off. woodstock.43.37: Mad Hatter (airman) Mon 15 Aug 94 14:18 Too many windows, er, lines of communication into the festival. seems that everyone had real or virtual connections there, and alot of people had a big measuring stick of what happened 25 yers ago. Maybe if we had a multiple choice questionaire... Capturing memories in realtime may not be the success story. A little patienmight ferret out what happened... woodstock.43.38: otis (nycjag) Tue 16 Aug 94 09:25 I think this is a better source for the feel of the event than anything the mainstream press did woodstock.43.39: Franklin J. Flocks (fjf) Tue 16 Aug 94 11:54 The best coverage of the event I've seen in print was in Monday's U.S.A today- Almost 3 pages - with lots of detail on the Mud people and music reviews. woodstock.43.40: otis (nycjag) Tue 16 Aug 94 12:00 yeah, it was pretty good... did anyone see any print mention of wasserman breaking his arm? woodstock.43.41: gimme an "F"! (reva) Tue 16 Aug 94 15:50 Yup, it was in the Datebook section of the SF _Chronicle_ this morning. woodstock.43.42: Sleep in the Stars (btwind) Tue 16 Aug 94 16:08 Also in the NY Daily News today about Wassermans arm- He sits in on bass w/ the GD on occasion! - Gee, I didnt know that! woodstock.43.43: otis (nycjag) Wed 17 Aug 94 05:30 the press is so stoopid! woodstock.43.44: home in peaceful San Francisco (tigereye) Sun 21 Aug 94 00:29 The lack of narrative *is* the reality -- we have become accustomed to the press making news into fables, complete with moral messages. Sometimes it takes a little longer for the true meaning of an event to come out, independent of the imposed narrative provided by the media for easy 20-second digestion.
See the main Woodstock project page for more
of the backstory.
See the main Woodstock project page for more of the backstory.
Italic footnote comments made February 2001.
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