Paul Belserene (paulbel) Sun 4 Nov 12 11:36
I agree, Jef. It's a further advancement of what Rove has done for years, but this cycle it's extremely stark. "Obama refuses to work with Congress" for example. The vote thing really concerns me.
Julie Sherman (julieswn) Sun 4 Nov 12 17:59
From Steve, an off-WELL reader: Folks, as an American, I don't wish to know who you vote for unless you want to volunteer that information and have a chat. Just vote. If everybody who can vote does vote, I'm pretty sure my guy will win. If he doesn't we'll still survive. We've fired a King, thrown and fairly well mended from a horrible civil war, still have the gumption to resolve the aftermath of slavery (albeit we're not doing so well on that score)â¦ but, we've dodged a couple of insurrections to form a dictatorship and managed to keep the wheels of a perpetually fragile republic turning. So, just get out and vote and take somebody who might otherwise just watch the show with you to the polls. Democracy is not a spectator sport. We all have skin in this game. Make your choice Americans and let it be known in the secret sacred space of scratching a ballot.
jelly fish challenged (reet) Sun 4 Nov 12 18:48
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Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Mon 5 Nov 12 07:33
>The first election-related federal lawsuit has already been filed in South Florida, where some citizens waited over seven hours to vote early over the weekend. In an area that includes Palm Beach, Miami-Dade and Broward County -- yes, that Broward County -- Florida Democrats scrambled to extend early voting hours over the weekend citing "inadequate polling facilities" in a complaint filed in a Miami federal court on Sunday. "The extraordinarily long lines deterred or prevented voters from waiting to vote," says the lawsuit. "Some voters left the polling sites upon learning of the expected wait, and others refused to line up altogether. These long lines and extreme delays unduly and unjustifiably burdened the right to vote." These three counties are home to 32 percent of the state's Democrats. <http://news.yahoo.com/voting-already-mess-florida-041641182.html;_ylt=AgvSQP03 y86FlwyX02QiYDOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsdGU5a210BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDNWJmOGUw N2EtYmQ2OS0zZmJhLTkxYjEtZTZhZDZiMGM4ZmJjBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyAzBiM2 U5NzYwLTI3MDQtMTFlMi1iZmMzLTFmZTc2MDJkOTkzZg--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdX MEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3> <http://tinyurl.com/akfeosu>
Dave Waite (dwaite) Mon 5 Nov 12 19:13
I wanted to do early voting in Chicago - last Sunday (10/27) and found that the early voting line in my neighborhood was over 1.5 hours. My wife and I passed on the early voting opportunity and continued with our Sunday errands. This past Thursday (11/1) I had the opportunity to stop by the polls again and see if the lines were shorter, and they were much shorter. So I voted in about 30 minutes. Rumor is that between 30 and 50% of the folks expected to vote have already voted - so if your polling place is crowded, take it as a good thing on Tuesday. Stick around and vote.
Gary Gach (ggg) Mon 5 Nov 12 19:17
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 6 Nov 12 07:51
I just saw on MSNBC that 200,000 ballots in Ohio would be "provisional". If the winning margin in less than that, counting them wouldn't even start by Ohio law until 10 days after the election, very possibly leaving the outcome hanging that long. Of course, the lawsuits would be flying fast and furious. Florida's shortening of the early voting window down to 8 days has left long lines and short tempers. The three largest counties, which includes "hanging chad Broward" have allowed people to obtain and immediately vote "absentee ballots" as an end-run. If Florida is close, expect another onslaught of lawsuits. I sincerely hope that the outcome of this election is clear enough by the time polls close at 1 AM EST in Hawaii and Alaska that we won't be drawn through some agonizing aftermath.
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 6 Nov 12 13:13
I live in Virginia, which will be one of the first state's polls to close at 7 PM EST. If Obama wins here, I say stick a fork in Romney, he's done. If Romney wins here, and I think he barely will, I'm not coming to any conclusions based on that. Virginia is a very purple state, with Republicans in the top offices currently, but went for Obama in 2008.
Ed Ward (captward) Tue 6 Nov 12 13:14
Then there's this: The names of registered Philadelphia voters are not showing up on voter rolls and poll workers are instructing them to vote using provisional ballots, according to voters and poll workers in West and North Philadelphia. Provisional ballots, if they are counted, are not counted until up to seven days after the election. <http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/nakedcity/177510161.html> ...and this... An election worker in Oregon is facing a criminal investigation for allegedly altering multiple ballots to benefit Republican candidates. In a press release on Monday, Clackamas County spokesperson Tim Heider said that 55-year-old Deanna Swenson had been relieved of duty immediately after the alleged ballot tampering was discovered. Swenson, who was registered as a Republican, was accused of filling in a Republican straight ticket on ballots where voters did not specify a choice. Raw Story <http://s.tt/1sglR>
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 6 Nov 12 13:17
Oregon is strictly vote by mail, iirc.
Autumn (autumn) Tue 6 Nov 12 13:39
I was annoyed to have to vote using a provisional ballot here in Northern California because I registered at my new address on the last possible date, a few hours after the roster of voters for my precinct had been printed. I'm definitely registered and my vote will be counted, but not right away. (I waited to register because I wanted to avoid getting junk mail on various issues and candidates.)
Jon Lebkowsky (jonl) Tue 6 Nov 12 14:27
CNN suggested a hashtag #cnnvotewatch for reporting irregularities - they're watching it and researching the reports. You can see the tweets at https://twitter.com/search?q=%23cnnvotewatch Looks like some voting machines have been incorrectly calibrated, through error or design: http://vimeo.com/52947220
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 6 Nov 12 16:08
With polls just closing in Virginia, MSNBC says its "too close to call" in both the Presidential and Senate races.
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 6 Nov 12 21:10
With a bunch of "swing" states "too close to call", nevertheless the MSM calls Ohio for Obama and he is re-elected. On the Senate side, Dems maintain 50+ control. It pains me to say that it seems the Reps maintain control of the House by entirely too comfortable a margin.
star-like online artifact (oz) Tue 6 Nov 12 22:18
They may lose a few seats in the House. I think they will. But the Dems seem to have kept their majority in the Senate, with gains in Maine, Massachusetts, maybe another state?
no disrespect to our friends the chum (wiggly) Tue 6 Nov 12 23:58
I would have loved to see Pelosi take back the giant gavel from the tear-stained, obstructionist Oompa-Loompa. All in all, though, it's been a great day.
Dave Waite (dwaite) Wed 7 Nov 12 06:40
Locally here in the Midwest... I'm happy that two Tammy's won: Iraq Veteran Tammy Duckworth beat out the wrong Joe Walsh in a hotly contested battle where Joe went negative and personal - and that hurt him. and Openly Gay Tammy Baldwin wins against former Governor Tommy Thompson.
David Gans (tnf) Wed 7 Nov 12 08:58
The two Tammys! Yes indeed!!
for dixie southern iraq (stet) Wed 7 Nov 12 15:21
The double Tammy!
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 20 Nov 12 15:15
I've had a bout of the flu, or something like it, even though I got a flu shot. Anyway, have not been doing what I should to keep this topic going. Sorry. So, watching MSNBC it already seems like the fraking 2016 campaign is being discussed; which makes me disgusted. At least one could-be candidate is already stalking Iowa, although he claims it couldn't possibly be what he's doing. Bobby Jindal is denouncing the current party as basically idiots, which I think is probably a good strategy, casting yourself as the only adult in the room. Meanwhile the MSM is full of advice and browbeating about the Republican Party having dug itself into a hole with its "old white guy" strategy. (As an old white guy, I resent this, for what it's worth.) So where do we go from here?
Jef Poskanzer (jef) Tue 20 Nov 12 15:22
The Republicans started positioning themselves for 2016 even before Romney lost. Shrug. Maybe it means they'll pay less attention to the 2014 mid-terms and we can kick more jackasses out of Congress.
Stoney Tangawizi (evan) Tue 20 Nov 12 15:47
Although the historical trend is for the out-of-the-office-of-the-Presidency to pick up seats in the House. Best thing the Dems to possibly do is to start a "this man/woman is an idiot, look what he/she has said/done. The Dems need to do it right now. We need to get the Tea Party loons and their allies (like a lot of evangelicals) into the minority, the further into the minority the better.
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